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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Oh, I know the stereotypes, I just don't give them any credence.

    And what are you talking about? That is a delicious meal!
    well here is a wake up call for you........blacks are very offended by those stereotypes..........
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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    I doubt this it will happen but if they do a broad ruling on equal gay rights that would be amazing!!!!!!!


    Im guessing it will be a Cali decisions though. At best im hoping they rule in a fashion that kills all the discrimination laws against equal gay rights in all the states.

    This would be AWESOME and AMAZING and even if it only affects Cali that WILL be another nail in the coffin discrimination and will help bring equal gay rights to all.

    I mean it will happen eventually anyways but it be so phenomenal if it happen sooner than later. It be so historical and it be great for America to do something inspiring like this right now.
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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    If you allow it for gays why not other people. why are you for them and not giving the same rights to everyone?
    Name one country or state that has legalized same sex marriage that has allowed the partnerships you described.

    I'll help you out. It hasn't happened. Your fear mongering is disproved by reality NP.
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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

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    DOMA is so damn unconstitutional it's not even funny.
    But 86 senators voted for DOMA including a whole bunch of democrats and Clinton signed the law... (confused)
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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    But 86 senators voted for DOMA including a whole bunch of democrats and Clinton signed the law... (confused)
    Democrats are just as worthless as Republicans. You must be scrapping the barrel if you think that argument is going to work. Clearly you seem to have forgotten there are plenty of us here who would love to run both parties out of the country.

    People who fear gay marriage on the basis of the sanctity of marriage define the value of their marriage on what society tells them it is worth. Not what they put into the marriage themselves. If you valued marriage on what you put in to it, it would not matter what anyone else did in theirs.
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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    so should one be allowed to have 2 wives or husbands? {/QUOTE]

    Sure as long as an equitable solution can be found out. As it goes now with this one woman one man thing it causes a lot of problems and legal issues.







    That is already covered and family does get legal rights to inheritance

    They do not get the SS if a person dies..you have to be a spouse
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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    What's the status of the DOMA case? Haven't been keeping up with that.
    DOMA is the law of the land
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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    How the hell is the burden on my side when the appeals court ruled that Prop 8 is unconstitutional? Shifting the burden of proof is pretty pathetic LD.
    Because the state does not have to justify it's law. The plaintiff has to show he is harmed by it.

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Irrelevant to this case. The Supreme Court of California already expanded the definition of marriage to include same sex couples. Prop 8 then came in and effectively took away the right for same sex couples to designate their civil partnerships as marriages. That means in order to justify Prop 8, you have to argue why the state has an interest in taking away the right for same sex couples to designate their civil partnerships as marriages.
    No, it doesn't. The people of California amended their Constitution with a valid law. We've already discussed that Prop 8 could be upheld and the marriages that took place before could remain valid.

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Can you explain in your own words what state interests Smith suggested might be served by upholding Prop 8'
    You're asking me to paraphrase Smith? Really? Sorry, teach, I didn't take notes. My focus on his opinion was on how Romer doesn't control. He did talk about responsible procreation and the optimal parenting rationale, and he felt generally that we should be cautious about redefining marriage.

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    In the comment you made above, you just proved to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that you do understand this case on the most basic level.
    Wow. I met the "shadow of a doubt" threshold! Go me!
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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Personally I think it has very little to do with gay marriage...........I have gay friends one on my golf team who could care less about gay marriage.....He would settle for civil unions.. I actually was friends with his partner to who died of AIDS He to did care about gay marriage.....I went to his funeral..he was a great guy.........the actual issue here that is being promoted by a few gay people and a whole bunch of feel good libs is acceptance of the gay life style as a suitable alternative life style to be taught to our children and that must not happen...... I don't care what gays or straights do in the privacy of their bedrooms, just don't tell me
    I was waiting for you to bring your supposed "gay friends" into the mix, as if that somehow makes you less of a homophobe. It's just like the racist who claims to have a few black friends. So you know a few gay people who share your views on gay marriage. Who cares? I'm willing to bet there are even more who don't. By the way, I have a hard time believing that you actually have gay friends when you make completely moronic comments about how the gay lifestyle is something that is being "taught" to kids. Give me a break. I think any realist can see that there is truly nothing alluring about being gay considering the stigma that so many people (like you) have about them. Not to mention the people who are cast aside by friends and family when they come out.

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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    well here is a wake up call for you........blacks are very offended by those stereotypes..........
    Well, I'm sure that they all appreciate a white guy speaking for them on what they are or aren't offended about as a whole.

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