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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    so should one be allowed to have 2 wives or husbands? should people be allowed to marry within the family (Non sexual for benefits allowed) That is the bucket of worms you open if you allow gay marriage.............Why should they be denied? I doubt if you will answer me.....the left never does except to call us Bigots or Homophobes when they have no other snwer......
    It's not a bucket of worms at all. As you stated before, the Constitution does not even address the issue at all. The Bible does, but the US was created as a secular nation.
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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

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    Actually, the originators would have said it's none of the government's business. For a wannabe Conservative, you sure like to stick your nose into peoples' business, don't you?


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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

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    Edit: about your last paragraph: DOMA is almost certainly going to be overturned(the vast majority of legal scholars all agree with this, including most conservative ones). When DOMA is overturned the federal government will have to recognize those married as married, which carries an insane number of benefits under federal law. Civil unions do not carry those federal benefits.
    Assuming status quo, can you explain to me why this would be good for gays in states that currently deny civil unions equal benefits under law? It seems to me that it would disallow a "compromise" between the two sides in the form of equal benefits without changing the definition of marriage.

    Question to homosexual DPers: Is this even a compromise you would ever be willing to make? "Separate but equal" so to say. Is this a major point of contention you have with President Obama?
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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    so should one be allowed to have 2 wives or husbands? should people be allowed to marry within the family (Non sexual for benefits allowed) That is the bucket of worms you open if you allow gay marriage.............Why should they be denied? I doubt if you will answer me.....the left never does except to call us Bigots or Homophobes when they have no other snwer......
    Show me how allowing SSM will lead to those things? Those are completely different to SSM, and are strawmen, a logical fallacy. You have no argument going down this train of thought. Of course you have no argument on any train of thought, but you should know that by now.
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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

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    Assuming status quo, can you explain to me why this would be good gays in states that currently deny civil unions equal benefits under law? It seems to me that it would disallow a "compromise" between the two sides in the form of equal benefits without changing the definition of marriage.

    Question to homosexual DPers: Is this even a compromise you would ever be willing to make? "Separate but equal" so to say. Is this a major point of contention you have with President Obama?
    Separate but equal, is inherently unequal. It's against the Constitution, so it should not be law, if we wish to continue to be a nation of laws.
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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhapsody1447 View Post
    Assuming status quo, can you explain to me why this would be good for gays in states that currently deny civil unions equal benefits under law? It seems to me that it would disallow a "compromise" between the two sides in the form of equal benefits without changing the definition of marriage.
    I am sorry, I am not following what you are asking. Could you rephrase that please.
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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I can't believe you don't know that stereotype that racists lay on black people........I will take your word for it but I would not go into that black church offering the congregation a bunch of KFC or watermelon for that matter.Just some friendly advice........
    Oh, I know the stereotypes, I just don't give them any credence.

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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

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    Because they rule against the will of the people........If they can do it on this issue they can do it on anything..that is the scary part.........
    The "will of the people" isn't always right.

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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

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    Oh, I know the stereotypes, I just don't give them any credence.

    And what are you talking about? That is a delicious meal!
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    Re: Court: CA gay-marriage ban is unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    so should one be allowed to have 2 wives or husbands? should people be allowed to marry within the family (Non sexual for benefits allowed) That is the bucket of worms you open if you allow gay marriage.............Why should they be denied? I doubt if you will answer me.....the left never does except to call us Bigots or Homophobes when they have no other snwer......
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    Anyways...In the future people will look upon Navy pride for what he is...a "hater"
    Similar to the way many view those who were against civil rights

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