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    Re: Obama changes tune, urges fundraisers to back super PAC

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Flip-Flop.

    Not a shock really.
    Not a flip-flop. The GOP have set the pace for this election and that pace is to encourage SuperPACS. Obama is simply responding to the pace that the GOP frontrunners (Romney and Gingrich) have set. To do otherwise would be political suicide, which is of course what righties want.

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    Re: Obama changes tune, urges fundraisers to back super PAC

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    It's not rally a Flip-Flop since President Obama still holds to the same principle, he wants the money of politics. However, he needs to fight fire with fire.
    How can you hold a principle but not follow it?

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    Re: Obama changes tune, urges fundraisers to back super PAC

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    How can you hold a principle but not follow it?
    It's similar to Republicans that hate earmarks, yet still receive earmarks.

    They might think that earmarks should be banned, but while they are in congress it is their job to fight for their constituents to get what they need.

    This is the same thing, Obama thinks that these superpacs are bad things and that we'd be better off without them, but as long as there legal he pretty much has to use them to have a fair shot at getting reelected.

    Let's say you were coaching a college baseball team and thought that all teams should switch to wooden bats for safety. Should you switch your team over while everyone else still uses metal bats? Nope, it puts you at a disadvantage, and everyone is still going to be in danger from all of the other metal bats still being used. Therefor, you are not being a hypocrite for arguing one thing and being forced to do another.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Obama changes tune, urges fundraisers to back super PAC

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    How can you hold a principle but not follow it?
    So you think Obama should not use SuperPACS while the GOP candidate does? I'm sorry but that is just stupid.

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    Re: Obama changes tune, urges fundraisers to back super PAC

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Let's say you were coaching a college baseball team and thought that all teams should switch to wooden bats for safety. Should you switch your team over while everyone else still uses metal bats? Nope, it puts you at a disadvantage, and everyone is still going to be in danger from all of the other metal bats still being used. Therefor, you are not being a hypocrite for arguing one thing and being forced to do another.
    If I felt so strongly that using metal bats were wrong I'd stop coaching.


    So you think Obama should not use SuperPACS while the GOP candidate does? I'm sorry but that is just stupid.
    I didn't say anything about my opinion.

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    Re: Obama changes tune, urges fundraisers to back super PAC

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    It's not rally a Flip-Flop since President Obama still holds to the same principle, he wants the money of politics. However, he needs to fight fire with fire.
    It's hypocritical.

    "Abortion shouldn't be legal." "But I'm going to have one because it is now, and I want one."

    It's no different at all.
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    Re: Obama changes tune, urges fundraisers to back super PAC

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    It's hypocritical.

    "Abortion shouldn't be legal." "But I'm going to have one because it is now, and I want one."

    It's no different at all.
    As was pointed out by conservatives, which politician isn't hypocritical?

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    Re: Obama changes tune, urges fundraisers to back super PAC

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    As was pointed out by conservatives, which politician isn't hypocritical?
    The one no one is voting for because they're too afraid of the "greater of two evils?"

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    Re: Obama changes tune, urges fundraisers to back super PAC

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    It's hypocritical.

    "Abortion shouldn't be legal." "But I'm going to have one because it is now, and I want one."

    It's no different at all.
    Sorry, there's nothing hypocritical about "I am playing by these rules but I think they should be changed."

    I don't expect everyone who thinks we should go back to the gold standard to trade all of their money in for gold.

    I also don't expect a candidate who thinks that the campaign rules should be changed to put himself at a severe disadvantage.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
    **Thirty Minutes Later**
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Obama changes tune, urges fundraisers to back super PAC

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Sorry, there's nothing hypocritical about "I am playing by these rules but I think they should be changed."

    I don't expect everyone who thinks we should go back to the gold standard to trade all of their money in for gold.

    I also don't expect a candidate who thinks that the campaign rules should be changed to put himself at a severe disadvantage.
    I guess, reluctantly, I must agree with you here. Can't argue this: "I am playing by these rules, but I think they should be changed." Ya' got me!
    The devil whispered in my ear, "You cannot withstand the storm." I whispered back, "I am ​the storm."

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