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    Anti-union groupís ad scores in Super Bowl

    Anti-union group’s ad scores in Super Bowl

    Spot for Hill bill breaks new ground

    By Tim Devaney - The Washington Times

    Monday, February 6, 2012

    Only Washington-area viewers got to see it, but a $150,000 Super Bowl ad broadcast Sunday night threw an unexpected spotlight on a push by Capitol Hill Republicans to rewrite labor rules to weaken the power of union officials over individual workers.

    The Employee Rights Act, introduced last August by Sen. Orrin G. Hatch of Utah and Rep. Tim Scott of South Carolina, both Republicans, was broadcast amid the top-dollar ads for cars, beer and Internet domain companies.

    The bill would require workers to reaffirm the continued existence of their unions with new votes every three years. It also would place limits on strikes, how quickly a union can organize a work site, and how membership fees may be used to support political candidates. It has yet to receive a committee hearing in either chamber.

    “The reaction has been great,” said Rick Berman, founder of the Center for Union Facts, the conservative lobbying group that sponsored the Super Bowl ad. “This is a campaign to educate people about what’s wrong with labor law in this country.”

    Anti-union group's ad scores in Super Bowl - Washington Times
    It is so nice to see the Union Thugs coming under scrutiny by the masses. Folks should be able to choose whether they want representation or not. They should be able to choose whether their union Dues supports the political candidates they want. Folks should also have the right to work free from union pressure to join their political organization. I can only hope this spreads from coast to coast. The taxpayers deserve to get a fair shake with the politicians that the unions routinely purchase for their own benefit.
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    Re: Anti-union groupís ad scores in Super Bowl

    I couldn't help but wonder, while watching this ad during the game, what the "Employee Rights Act" would actually do to improve the rights of employees. Gutting their ability to unionize and allowing employers to pressure them into staying out of unions, so as to weaken their ability to bargain as a group, doesn't really seem to do much to expand the rights of employees at all. Weakening unions does nothing to strengthen employees.
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    Re: Anti-union groupís ad scores in Super Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I couldn't help but wonder, while watching this ad during the game, what the "Employee Rights Act" would actually do to improve the rights of employees. Gutting their ability to unionize and allowing employers to pressure them into staying out of unions, so as to weaken their ability to bargain as a group, doesn't really seem to do much to expand the rights of employees at all. Weakening unions does nothing to strengthen employees.
    All the things the unions used to fight for are now currently incorporated into labor law. So, what exactly is their purpose today?
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    Re: Anti-union groupís ad scores in Super Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I couldn't help but wonder, while watching this ad during the game, what the "Employee Rights Act" would actually do to improve the rights of employees. Gutting their ability to unionize and allowing employers to pressure them into staying out of unions, so as to weaken their ability to bargain as a group, doesn't really seem to do much to expand the rights of employees at all. Weakening unions does nothing to strengthen employees.
    I doubt that anyone wants to gut their ability to unionize, but there are union members who oppose some of the candidates that their unions support. They don't want their union dues supporting said candidates. There was a time when unions were overall good for their employees, but they have become little more than left-wing thugs in many respects these days.
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    Re: Anti-union groupís ad scores in Super Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    All the things the unions used to fight for are now currently incorporated into labor law. So, what exactly is their purpose today?
    Political fundraising?

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    Re: Anti-union groupís ad scores in Super Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    All the things the unions used to fight for are now currently incorporated into labor law. So, what exactly is their purpose today?
    To keep people like you from unincorporating them.
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    Re: Anti-union groupís ad scores in Super Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I couldn't help but wonder, while watching this ad during the game, what the "Employee Rights Act" would actually do to improve the rights of employees. Gutting their ability to unionize and allowing employers to pressure them into staying out of unions, so as to weaken their ability to bargain as a group, doesn't really seem to do much to expand the rights of employees at all. Weakening unions does nothing to strengthen employees.
    Some people don't like to be in unions, and not just because they're pressured by their employers.

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    Re: Anti-union groupís ad scores in Super Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    Some people don't like to be in unions, and not just because they're pressured by their employers.
    First and foremost, they're undemocratic as hell. Well at least, closed shops. Sorry, if what they offer is soooo beneficial, then people shouldn't be coerced to join.

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    Re: Anti-union groupís ad scores in Super Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I couldn't help but wonder, while watching this ad during the game, what the "Employee Rights Act" would actually do to improve the rights of employees. Gutting their ability to unionize and allowing employers to pressure them into staying out of unions, so as to weaken their ability to bargain as a group, doesn't really seem to do much to expand the rights of employees at all. Weakening unions does nothing to strengthen employees.

    Doesn't a right imply that you have a choice? For example the right to keep and bear arms.It implies that you have a choice in whether or not you want to keep and bear arms,it doesn't mean you are forced to a keep and bear arms. A closed shop means you have to join a specific union if you wish to have a certain job,you can't even pick or form another union if you don't like the one that is available.
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    Re: Anti-union groupís ad scores in Super Bowl

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    All the things the unions used to fight for are now currently incorporated into labor law. So, what exactly is their purpose today?
    The National Labor Relations Board does not protect certain employees.

    Most employees in the private sector are covered by the NLRA. However, the Act specifically excludes individuals who are:

    employed by Federal, state, or local government
    employed as agricultural laborers
    employed in the domestic service of any person or family in a home
    employed by a parent or spouse
    employed as an independent contractor
    employed as a supervisor (supervisors who have been discriminated against for refusing to violate the NLRA may be covered)
    employed by an employer subject to the Railway Labor Act, such as railroads and airlines
    employed by any other person who is not an employer as defined in the NLRA
    https://www.nlrb.gov/rights-we-protect/employee-rights
    The Occupational Safety & Health Administration doesn't cover certain workers either.

    State and Local Government Workers:

    Employees who work for state and local governments are not covered by Federal OSHA, but have OSH Act protections if they work in a state that has an OSHA-approved state program. Four additional states and one U.S. territory have OSHA approved plans that cover public sector employees only. This includes: Connecticut, Illinois, New Jersey, New York, and the Virgin Islands. Private sector workers in these four states and the Virgin Islands are covered by Federal OSHA.
    Workers

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