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    Re: Komen reverses move to cut Planned Parenthood funding

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I don't really see how manual breast exams and referrals for mammograms makes PP a significant contributor to women's breast health or the fight against breast cancer. Wouldn't that same money be better spent on county health units and organizations that do provide free and/or low-cost mammograms?
    Planned Parenthood is known for it's countrywide access to low income women. It holds a unique place in that regard. It's access as a single organization to so many people throughout the country makes it, I think, a smart option for funding since other organizations will have a more limited reach even if they can provide mammograms on their own.

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    It is true that no link has been proven to exist between abortion and breast cancer. However, the National Cancer Institute states that oral contraceptives have been shown to increase the risk of liver, cervical and yes, breast cancer, and Planned Parenthood is proud to be a leading provider of free or affordable birth control. Therefore it is not totally unreasonable to suggest that funding PP is not in keeping with Komen's mission.
    The American Cancer Society states that full term pregnancies resulting in childbirth lead to an increased risk of breast cancer and hospitals all over the country are proud of delivering babies. Therefore, it is not totally unreasonable to suggest that funding places that provide abortions is in keeping with Komen's mission.

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    Re: Komen reverses move to cut Planned Parenthood funding

    Planned Parenthood even states that all they do is a referral service. It costs nothing to refer someone to somewhere else. The money would be far better spent at the places that actually perform mammograms and such.

    Planned Parenthood doctors and nurses teach patients about breast care, connect patients to resources to help them get vital biopsies, ultrasounds, and mammograms, and follow up to make sure patients are cared for with the attention they need and deserve.


    That makes it sound so swell but all they do is make recommendations.

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    Re: Komen reverses move to cut Planned Parenthood funding

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    The American Cancer Society states that full term pregnancies resulting in childbirth lead to an increased risk of breast cancer and hospitals all over the country are proud of delivering babies. Therefore, it is not totally unreasonable to suggest that funding places that provide abortions is in keeping with Komen's mission.
    In reality, American Cancer Society's website states that women who have had no children have a slightly higher breast cancer risk, while having many pregnancies or becoming pregnant at a young age reduces breast cancer risk.

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    Re: Komen reverses move to cut Planned Parenthood funding

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Therefore, it is not totally unreasonable to suggest that funding places that provide abortions is in keeping with Komen's mission.
    Sure, only about 99% unreasonable. I do hope I don't have to explain why.
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    Re: Komen reverses move to cut Planned Parenthood funding

    I don't think cancer societies are really helping us fight cancer - they're just money monsters. That said, I'm glad the PP decision was overturned. They provide way more services to families than just abortion, including pre-natal care and checkups.

    I've always donated to PP but it's good to know they are regaining part of their funding stream again. The service they provide to America is essential.

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    Re: Komen reverses move to cut Planned Parenthood funding

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    They provide way more services to families than just abortion, including pre-natal care and checkups.
    Don't underestimate the ratio of abortions to prenatal care; this pie chart is from 2008.

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    Also of note, the number of abortions performed by Planned Parenthood increases yearly by leaps and bounds, while the number of adoption referrals and prenatal visits dwindles. In 2007 the ratio of adoption referrals to abortions was a staggering 1 to 62. The 2008 ratio was 1 adoption for every 134 abortions, and the 2009 ratio was 1:340.

    The 2010 ratio was 1 adoption referral for every 391 abortions.

    Make your own conclusions, but I would prefer not to see Komen money spent on clinics that refer women elsewhere for breast exams while making abortion, an issue unrelated to Susan G. Komen, such a priority; cutting out the middle man--Planned Parenthood--would make each Komen dollar go much further in the battle against breast cancer. I would even go so far as to say that it would be more appropriate for Komen money to go to places that do not provide free or affordable oral contraceptives to teenagers and adults until the link between oral contraceptives and breast cancer has been addressed.

    I was disappointed by the un-de-funding this week, a move that seemed even more political to me than the decision to defund in the first place.
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    Re: Komen reverses move to cut Planned Parenthood funding

    Sounds like some political arm-twisting to me.
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    Re: Komen reverses move to cut Planned Parenthood funding

    Threads like this always make me incredibly said, as misinformation and carefully-edited for inacuracy information is thrown around with the "A" word. It has completely ignored women's health in an almost rabid attempt to enforce a political agenda on an agency that spends 97% of its resources on non-abortion related women's health issues, and offers low-to-no cost health care to women who frequently have no other place to go.

    People are entitled to their personal views about abortion, but when it spreads into attempts to remove an extremely valuable asset to low and moderate income women's health care, it really kinda ticks me off. This whole thing was a political move, created by another political move by a conservative congressman, who also wishes to close down PP's 97% of non-abortion related health care to legislate his personal views, and force them on the entire country. Shame on him, and shame on the Komen Foundation.
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    Re: Komen Reverses Decision On Funding PP

    But not if you’re a liberal enforcer. Senator Barbara Boxer, with characteristic understatement, compared the Komen Foundation’s Nancy Brinker to Joe McCarthy: “I’m reminded of the McCarthy era, where somebody said: ‘Oh,’ a congressman stands up, a senator, ‘I’m investigating this organization and therefore people should stop funding them.’” But Komen is not a congressman or a senator or any other part of the government, only a private organization. And therefore it is free to give its money to whomever it wishes, isn’t it?
    The Liberal Enforcers - Mark Steyn - National Review Online

    I think that whole piece sums it up. PP doesn't do mammograms, but you cannot stop giving them grant to support mammograms because that hurts the Pro-death cause.
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    Re: Komen Reverses Decision On Funding PP

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    The Liberal Enforcers - Mark Steyn - National Review Online

    I think that whole piece sums it up. PP doesn't do mammograms, but you cannot stop giving them grant to support mammograms because that hurts the Pro-death cause.
    No. Arguments in favor of PP aren't about mammograms, they are about breast exams - PP performs hundreds of thousands a year - particularly as they pertain to low income women. People's support of PP in this situation isn't some hidden agenda to support abortion. A lot of people really believe that PP is an important part of encouraging breast health in low income women. It's not a conspiracy to fund abortion and pro-choicers are not "pro-death" and I don't know why you want represent yourself by making such petty remarks.

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