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US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

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Was the GDP higher or lower in 2011 vs. 2010? That question has not been answered. Why is this called the worst recovery from a recession in history?

Yes, that question has been answered. And it's the worst recovery because it's the worst recession.
 
I don't think he thinks Obama is good.

I don't. I got excited on his foreign policy, then he does something that makes me freak out. I think 15.3 Trillion is unconceivable to anyone. At a time when we should be reducing the government, we are expanding programs. When we should be facing our problems we make new ones. We take away state and individual rights, and forget that the very foundation of this country is based upon an individual's rights.

The parade trampling on our rights didn't start in the last 4 years or the last 20...it has been going on for a better part of a decade. The country did a great job expanding civil liberties to all men and women, but at the same time it ebbed at the core of our rights.
 
I don't. I got excited on his foreign policy, then he does something that makes me freak out. I think 15.3 Trillion is unconceivable to anyone. At a time when we should be reducing the government, we are expanding programs. When we should be facing our problems we make new ones. We take away state and individual rights, and forget that the very foundation of this country is based upon an individual's rights.

The parade trampling on our rights didn't start in the last 4 years or the last 20...it has been going on for a better part of a decade. The country did a great job expanding civil liberties to all men and women, but at the same time it ebbed at the core of our rights.

Wilson, T.Roosevelt, FDR, and all the progressives are mostly part of the big government movement.
 
I don't. I got excited on his foreign policy, then he does something that makes me freak out. I think 15.3 Trillion is unconceivable to anyone. At a time when we should be reducing the government, we are expanding programs. When we should be facing our problems we make new ones. We take away state and individual rights, and forget that the very foundation of this country is based upon an individual's rights.

The parade trampling on our rights didn't start in the last 4 years or the last 20...it has been going on for a better part of a decade. The country did a great job expanding civil liberties to all men and women, but at the same time it ebbed at the core of our rights.

What is Hilary doing for the next 4 years?
 
Yes, that question has been answered. And it's the worst recovery because it's the worst recession.


2011 GDP Growth was half of what it was in 2010 and you call that an improving economy? Was Bush back in the WH in 2011? The stimulus was supposed to be short term giving the economy and this President time to implement policy to make things better, he failed yet you call the results improving? What is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty?

This is all about leadership and you voted for someone without any leadership skills. The results therefore aren't surprising to those here who understand leadership. Those that don't think Obama is doing a good job and still blame others. You are in the latter category.
 
Jobs Being Created:

Unemployment when Obama Took Office (Jan, 2009): 7.8%
Unemployment now: 8.3%

Civilian Labor Force Participation when he took Office (Nov, 2008): 67.8%
Civilian Labor Force Participation: 63.7%

All stats from BLS.

I have a challenge for you, let's see if you're up to the task .... Ok?

You point out that in Obama's first 36 months in office, the unemployment rate has increased from 7.8% to 8.3%, an increase of 0.5 percentage points.

Now here's the challenge .... are you ready ... ? Name for me the Republican president who did better than that at the 36 month in their presidency. Just one name will do.

Thanks in advance.
 
I have a challenge for you, let's see if you're up to the task .... Ok?

You point out that in Obama's first 36 months in office, the unemployment rate has increased from 7.8% to 8.3%, an increase of 0.5 percentage points.

Now here's the challenge .... are you ready ... ? Name for me the Republican president who did better than that at the 36 month in their presidency. Just one name will do.

Thanks in advance.

I actually don't care what the unemployment rate is. I just look at the raw numbers.
 
I actually don't care what the unemployment rate is. I just look at the raw numbers.

Sheik is too smart for this or at least thinks he is. Discouraged workers, marginally attached workers, others that have dropped out of the labor force don't matter to him nor do the projections his Administration gave the country when selling the stimulus. What was the unemployment SUPPOSED to be three years after it was implemented? Simple facts always get in the way of an ideologue
 
I try not to lean. I try to find the best political leader for my family.

I was going to suggest you vote Republican if you lean right or Democrat if you lean left since in cases where neither side offers a decent candidate, it comes down to USSC picks. But in your case, I suppose that doesn't matter.

So ... how's that challenge coming along. ... ? Have you found even one Republican president who's done a better job with unemployment during their first 36 months in office yet?

Just one will do. I mean if Obama sucks as badly as the right claims, surely you can find at least one Republican president who's done better than increasing unemployment by 0.5 percentage points? Right??
 
The Raw Numbers:

130 million jobs in December, 128 million jobs in January, give or take a couple hundred thousand either side. But when the seasonal adjustments take place, there is a gain of 200, whatever they're reporting, 33,000 jobs. Now, what's happening is the labor force is shrinking. There are fewer jobs.

2 million jobs were lost!
 
I was going to suggest you vote Republican if you lean right or Democrat if you lean left since in cases where neither side offers a decent candidate, it comes down to USSC picks. But in your case, I suppose that doesn't matter.

So ... how's that challenge coming along. ... ? Have you found even one Republican president who's done a better job with unemployment during their first 36 months in office yet?

Just one will do. I mean if Obama sucks as badly as the right claims, surely you can find at least one Republican president who's done better than increasing unemployment by 0.5 percentage points? Right??

What you want to ignore and focus on is comparing apples to oranges. Reagan didn't have the benefit of pullling discouraged workers out of his unemployment numbers like Obama had therefore the Reagan numbers are much better than the Obama numbers but you will continue to ignore reality. Discouraged workers were eliminated from the official unemployment rate in 1994 but prior to that were always included

By the way how are you coming on comparing GDP in 2011 vs. 2010?
 
What you want to ignore and focus on is comparing apples to oranges. Reagan didn't have the benefit of pullling discouraged workers out of his unemployment numbers like Obama had therefore the Reagan numbers are much better than the Obama numbers but you will continue to ignore reality. Discouraged workers were eliminated from the official unemployment rate in 1994 but prior to that were always included

By the way how are you coming on comparing GDP in 2011 vs. 2010?

As stated, that question was already answered.
 
As stated, that question was already answered.

Also has been stated and not rebuked is that the 2011 GDP is half of the 2010 GDP and randel along with all other liberals call that an improving economy. Improving for whom?
 
I have a challenge for you, let's see if you're up to the task .... Ok?

You point out that in Obama's first 36 months in office, the unemployment rate has increased from 7.8% to 8.3%, an increase of 0.5 percentage points.

Now here's the challenge .... are you ready ... ? Name for me the Republican president who did better than that at the 36 month in their presidency. Just one name will do.

Thanks in advance.

Do you have normalized data for years prior to 2005, if you can send that over, that would be great.

Thanks in advance.
 
Also has been stated and not rebuked is that the 2011 GDP is half of the 2010 GDP and randel along with all other liberals call that an improving economy. Improving for whom?

I can only speak myself but it's improvong for me and my family.
 
Do you have normalized data for years prior to 2005, if you can send that over, that would be great.

Thanks in advance.

Use the same BLS website you used to get the unemployent rate showing it's increased from 7.8% to 8.3% during Obama's first 36 months.
 
The Raw Numbers:

130 million jobs in December, 128 million jobs in January, give or take a couple hundred thousand either side. But when the seasonal adjustments take place, there is a gain of 200, whatever they're reporting, 33,000 jobs. Now, what's happening is the labor force is shrinking. There are fewer jobs.

2 million jobs were lost!

You understand why the numbers are adjusted for seasonal factors, right? Raw employment drops significantly EVERY January due to the termination of short-term holiday employees.
 
You understand why the numbers are adjusted for seasonal factors, right? Raw employment drops significantly EVERY January due to the termination of short-term holiday employees.

If you look at the data, it went down from Nov to Dec. ;)
 
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