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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    What is the source you are getting your information from?? I'd like to see for myself so I can make a note of how unreliable they are.

    Civilian labor force:

    11/2007: 153,835,000
    01/2012: 154,395,000

    The workforce has not decreased by almost 6 million, it has increased by 560,000.
    So let me see if I have this right, you believe a labor force that has grown by 500,000+ in 5 years is a good thing? You think that unemployment in January 2012 which is much higher than December 2007 is a good thing? The cost of generating those numbers is destroying this country but that doesn't matter because it is only your ideology that matters.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    only your ideology that matters.
    It will never, ever cease to amaze me, at how utterly hypocritical this statement is coming from a guy who's name is Conservative.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    It will never, ever cease to amaze me, at how utterly hypocritical this statement is coming from a guy who's name is Conservative.
    Results matter, Jet, regardless of the ideology. I have been a conservative for as long as I can remember starting out as a conservative Democrat but when the party left me, i became more aligned with the Republican Party although I have voted for a lot of conservative Democrats at the state and local levels. You seem to not really understand the conservative concept and you obviously ignore the failures of liberalism. Too many liberals continue to make excuses for the failures of Obama. Doubt seriously that they would give a conservative a pass if a conservative generated the numbers obama has generated three years after taking office.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by treedancer View Post
    The official definition of unemployment has not changed between 1982 and 2009; it is still data from the “Current Population Survey” commonly referred to as CPS. According to the “CPS“ data, in 1982, the median age of the labor force was 42,in the early 80's it was 35.

    Sooo…connect the dots. Being young, not encumbered by family, they switch jobs much more frequently then the geezer set. Using common sense (something you evidently leave behind when you log on to DP) the younger populations has higher unemployment rates.


    The second and the most damning stat which blows your “OPINION “out of the water, in the 8o's the CPS data covered about 93.% today it only covers about 89%. So yeah, in spite of your Bloviating and hurling of ad homs heather and yon…your“OPINION “still pretty well sucks.Go get yourself a big ole shot of Metamucil and beddey bye,gotta get prepared for anther day of slinging **** early tomorrow.:2wave
    The official definition certainly hasn't changed but the method to count the numbers have which you conveniently ignore. What were the number of discouraged workers during the Reagan years and show me the chart that shows those numbers? Results aren't opinions interpretation of those results could be. You and other obama supporters want to give him a pass for the results generated three years after taking office. That is what liberals always seem to do, pass off blame and never accepting responsibility. Why is that? How is this Administration benefiting you or the country economically? What numbers have I posted that are false?

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So let me see if I have this right, you believe a labor force that has grown by 500,000+ in 5 years is a good thing? You think that unemployment in January 2012 which is much higher than December 2007 is a good thing? The cost of generating those numbers is destroying this country but that doesn't matter because it is only your ideology that matters.
    No, you have it wrong. Learn to read.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    According to your link, the labor force grew by moire than 10,000,000 during the Bush presidency. During the Obama presidency, the labor force has gone from 154,236,000 in January 2009 to 154,395,000 in January 2012. That is a net gain of 159,000 jobs. Not bad for a $5,000,000,000,000 investment.
    oh? And what $5 trillion investment would that be?

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Sure Bush gets the blame still...Blame that on poll bias, blame that on media bias, what you are doing is spinning wildly. Look, I remember hearing somewhere that the labor increases at a rate something like 150K new people per month, so in order for the unemployment number to actually come down, the job creation would have to be a minimum some 300K new jobs per month created for an extended period, like a couple of years. I haven't seen a number like that yet. And further, it is this constant re evaluation, and re assesment of numbers put out there for the past three years that leads people to not trust that we are being told the truth in the first place concerning jobs, and employment forcasting in this country in the first place.

    If you want to cling to an argument of who gets the blame for when this thing started, as opposed to what has been done to fix it since, and hang your hat on that for a second term, you can, but it has never been a winning strategy.


    j-mac
    Or we can blame the results of that poll on reality. That reality being that George Bush left the economy in the worst condition any president left an economy for their successor with the one exception of Herbert Hoover. Most people recognize that as the reason we are where we are.

    As far as the unemployment rate, it's, not much higher than it was when Obama started and the trend is that it's dropping. If the rate drops below the 7.8% it was when he started, Obama wins the election easily.

    As far as a "winning strategy," even with conditions as they are and Obama blaming Bush, he still leads every GOP rival.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    oh? And what $5 trillion investment would that be?
    The debt hit 10 trillion in October of 2008. One month before Obama was elected. It is now $15.3 trillion. Thats $5 trillion in Obama debt. Give or take.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    The debt hit 10 trillion in October of 2008. One month before Obama was elected. It is now $15.3 trillion. Thats $5 trillion in Obama debt. Give or take.
    Care to guess what was it before the Democrats became the majority in both House & Senate in '06?
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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    You’re right. A more thorough analysis of the numbers reveals that GWB was doing ‘pretty’ good until the end of ’05. The nose dive COULD be blamed on Democrats taking majority of Congress.
    WTF???

    Do you think it's rational to blame the results from polls taken in late '05 on events which didn't occur for more than a year later until early 2007??

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