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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Great, since it is spin you shouldn't have any trouble proving it wrong. Good luck
    Errr.. you totally evaded a question...
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post

    The lowest U.S. jobless rate in three years hasnít changed the long-term picture
    for millions of Americans: about 5.5 million havenít worked for 27 weeks or
    more and are still looking
    -- making up 42.9 percent of the total unemployed
    pool. Another 2.8 million are too discouraged to actively look for work in
    recent weeks or have other reasons for not wanting to be in the labor force,

    according to non-seasonally adjusted data released Feb. 3 by the Labor
    Department.

    Labor-force Loss Prompts Search of U.S. Churches: Economy - Businessweek
    27 weeks??

    Now compare that to what you said initially ....


    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post

    Workers dropped from the labor force: If you havenít looked for a job for
    a few weeks, the government, in their ultimate wisdom, assumes you donít want a
    job so they drop you from the labor force. Yet, if you were to ask all those
    people who didnít look for a job Ė because there are no jobs Ė they would surely
    tell you they wanted one. There are 6.65 million people in this category and
    if they were added back in, the unemployment rate would immediately jump from 9
    percent, to 12.8 percent.
    Sorry, but 27 weeks is not "a few weeks." That initial claim you made is simply flat out wrong.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Errr.. you totally evaded a question...
    Is this what you call general improvement?

    Jan-09 Jan-12
    Unemployment 12049 12754
    Discouraged 734 1059
    Private Sector Emp 133563 131900
    Labor Force 154236 154395
    Total Employment 142187 141637

    Obama today has a net job loss
    Obama today has a declining labor force
    Obama today has fewer people employed than when he took office
    Obama today has almost a million discouraged workers which he has averaged over the past three years
    Obama today has a U-6 unemployment of 15.2% or 24 million unemployed/under employed Americans
    Obama today has added 4.6 trillion dollars to the debt in 3 years
    Obama today spent over 842 billion in a stimulus plan that failed
    Obama today has a higher misery index than when he took office
    Obama today has participated in crony capitalism and wasted billions of taxpayer dollars trying to pick winners in the private sector
    Obama today has promoted class warfare and demonized individual wealth creation
    Obama today has seen record numbers in poverty and record numbers of people on food stamps
    Obama today still claims he brought this country back from the brink of financial collapse when TARP did that and it was Bush's legislation
    Obama today claims he saved the auto industry by taking over GM/Chrysler ignoring that Ford took no bailout money nor did any other Auto Manufacturer. Taxpayer losses will be in the billions
    Obama today has wasted the repayment of TARP and never used the money to pay down the deficit

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Sorry if those bull**** facts get in the way of your opinion and lack of understanding of leadership.
    It's not a fact, it's a delusion.

    If you knew what facts were, you'd know two of the leading indicators of the economy, GDP and unemployment, prove you wrong. And you will never be right no matter how many times you repeat it -- it shall forever remain the bull**** that it is.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Well not only is he not fired, it's looking more and more like he's going to be re-hired. Not that anything can't happen between now and the election, but for now, his lead over his rivals is up, his job approval rating is up, quarterly GDP is rising, employment is rising. Unless some calamity befalls us before November, which I have no doubt you are hoping and praying for, you're gonna have the pleasure of whining for another 4 years.
    I live in TX, not going to bother me nearly as much as it is going to hurt you and your state. More and more are going to move to TX because of the costs of the Obama govt. and the low taxes here. I always gave you way too much credit apparently for being smart but Obama sure has fooled you

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Is this what you call general improvement?

    Jan-09 Jan-12
    Unemployment 12049 12754
    Discouraged 734 1059
    Private Sector Emp 133563 131900
    Labor Force 154236 154395
    Total Employment 142187 141637

    Obama today has a net job loss
    Obama today has a declining labor force
    Obama today has fewer people employed than when he took office
    Obama today has almost a million discouraged workers which he has averaged over the past three years
    Obama today has a U-6 unemployment of 15.2% or 24 million unemployed/under employed Americans
    Obama today has added 4.6 trillion dollars to the debt in 3 years
    Obama today spent over 842 billion in a stimulus plan that failed
    Obama today has a higher misery index than when he took office
    Obama today has participated in crony capitalism and wasted billions of taxpayer dollars trying to pick winners in the private sector
    Obama today has promoted class warfare and demonized individual wealth creation
    Obama today has seen record numbers in poverty and record numbers of people on food stamps
    Obama today still claims he brought this country back from the brink of financial collapse when TARP did that and it was Bush's legislation
    Obama today claims he saved the auto industry by taking over GM/Chrysler ignoring that Ford took no bailout money nor did any other Auto Manufacturer. Taxpayer losses will be in the billions
    Obama today has wasted the repayment of TARP and never used the money to pay down the deficit
    First of all, source? Second of all, where is the "Obama isn't including those that have stopped seeking employment, and here are the statistics."
    I'm coming to see that no matter what law we regulate, be it the stand your ground act, there is never an objective morally right answer to any morale question; in fact, since there are multiple objectively right answers to every moral question that leaves us with a lot of grey area and a lot of black area (not in the racial since).
    -Jryan

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    It's not a fact, it's a delusion.

    If you knew what facts were, you'd know two of the leading indicators of the economy, GDP and unemployment, prove you wrong. And you will never be right no matter how many times you repeat it -- it shall forever remain the bull**** that it is.
    Really, 1.8% GDP growth which is lower than 2010 and higher unemployment than when he took office shows good leadership and you call that a success? Interesting logic. I am surprised someone of your self proclaimed intelligence could be fooled so easily

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Jan-09 Jan-12
    Unemployment 12049 12754
    Discouraged 734 1059
    Private Sector Emp 133563 131900
    Labor Force 154236 154395
    Total Employment 142187 141637

    Obama today has a net job loss
    Obama today has a declining labor force
    Obama today has fewer people employed than when he took office
    Obama today has almost a million discouraged workers which he has averaged over the past three years
    Obama today has a U-6 unemployment of 15.2% or 24 million unemployed/under employed Americans
    Obama today has added 4.6 trillion dollars to the debt in 3 years
    Obama today spent over 842 billion in a stimulus plan that failed
    Obama today has a higher misery index than when he took office
    Obama today has participated in crony capitalism and wasted billions of taxpayer dollars trying to pick winners in the private sector
    Obama today has promoted class warfare and demonized individual wealth creation
    Obama today has seen record numbers in poverty and record numbers of people on food stamps
    Obama today still claims he brought this country back from the brink of financial collapse when TARP did that and it was Bush's legislation
    Obama today claims he saved the auto industry by taking over GM/Chrysler ignoring that Ford took no bailout money nor did any other Auto Manufacturer. Taxpayer losses will be in the billions
    Obama today has wasted the repayment of TARP and never used the money to pay down the deficit
    And despite that, Obama's lead over his rivals is growing.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    First of all, source? Second of all, where is the "Obama isn't including those that have stopped seeking employment, and here are the statistics."
    The national unemployment rate of 8.3% excludes those that have become discouraged and have dropped out of the labor force thus aren't counted. last month that rate was 15.2%. What links do you want me to provide. BLS.gov will give you the employment, unemployment, discouraged workers, labor force, private sector employment, bea.gov will give you the GDP, the U.S.Treasury will give you the economic growth. You need to stop buying what you are told or at least verify what you are told.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    And despite that, Obama's lead over his rivals is growing.
    If Obama can fool self proclaimed intelligent people like you that number isn't surprising but it is a long ways until November 2012. $5 a gallon gasoline and rising unemployment will change that dramatically.

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