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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Did you subtract the dealerships that Obama put out of business and those employees? Did you figure out how many of those saved jobs were state jobs which are state, not federal taxpayer responsibilities? What is it about Obama that creates this kind of loyalty that causes good people like you to forget how to think?
    Whatta ****en joke you are. You state this in post #716 “GM doesn't employ three million people “in response to this statement I made to dickeyboy “the Obama administration saved at least three million jobs, “.DUH…what’s this a preemptive goal post removal?

    Now you come up with this lame ass question.”Did you subtract the dealerships that Obama put out of business and those employees?

    I will standby my original statement, which was “the Obama administration saved at least three million jobs “ and I will let you bend yourself into a pretzel explaining how dealerships of "American Branded Automobiles" would not have been shut down by not making the loans to Chrysler and GM.

    Also WTF does this statement that you posted have to do what we were discussing?” Did you figure out how many of those saved jobs were state jobs which are state, not federal taxpayer responsibilities? “

    I await your next convoluted string of ad homs and non sequiturs.
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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by treedancer View Post
    Whatta ****en joke you are. You state this in post #716 “GM doesn't employ three million people “in response to this statement I made to dickeyboy “the Obama administration saved at least three million jobs, “.DUH…what’s this a preemptive goal post removal?

    Now you come up with this lame ass question.”Did you subtract the dealerships that Obama put out of business and those employees?

    I will standby my original statement, which was “the Obama administration saved at least three million jobs “ and I will let you bend yourself into a pretzel explaining how dealerships of "American Branded Automobiles" would not have been shut down by not making the loans to Chrysler and GM.

    Also WTF does this statement that you posted have to do what we were discussing?” Did you figure out how many of those saved jobs were state jobs which are state, not federal taxpayer responsibilities? “

    I await your next convoluted string of ad homs and non sequiturs.
    If you stand by it then you should be able to provide a list of those saved jobs, I await that list. Your ability to be brainwashed by an ideology is quite telling.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

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    That is typical and what I expect from someone who has been looking for something to cheer about for the last three years. As usual you pick out a stat and ignore the total content. Apparently since January 2009 there has been no population and no labor force growth. The Obama results speak for themselves but i continue to be amazed at how someone who works for the state govt. has no problem giving more power to the Federal govt. Guess that is the way you delegate responsibility as well as blame for your poor results.

    Obama today has a net job loss
    Obama today has a declining labor force
    Obama today has fewer people employed than when he took office
    Obama today has almost a million discouraged workers which he has averaged over the past three years
    Obama today has a U-6 unemployment of 15.2% or 24 million unemployed/under employed Americans
    Obama today has add 154395
    ed 4.6 trillion dollars to the debt in 3 years
    Obama today spent over 842 billion in a stimulus plan that failed
    Obama today has a higher misery index than when he took office
    Obama today has participated in crony capitalism and wasted billions of taxpayer dollars trying to pick winners in the private sector
    Obama today has promoted class warfare and demonized individual wealth creation
    Obama today has seen record numbers in poverty and record numbers of people on food stamps
    Obama today still claims he brought this country back from the brink of financial collapse when TARP did that and it was Bush's legislation
    Obama today claims he saved the auto industry by taking over GM/Chrysler ignoring that Ford took no bailout money nor did any other Auto Manufacturer. Taxpayer losses will be in the billions
    Obama today has wasted the repayment of TARP and never used the money to pay down the deficit
    So what? The one term Marxist president Barack Hussein Obama has done more for the Communist Chinese than all previous presidents combined. That has to count for something.

    He has managed to drive one of our closest long term allies, the Canadians, into the arms of the waiting communist Chinese.
    That has to count for something.

    What did you think fundamental change meant? Of course he hates America. So?

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    If you stand by it then you should be able to provide a list of those saved jobs, I await that list. Your ability to be brainwashed by an ideology is quite telling.
    What’s in it for me? What say you if I point you towards a study that shows that the auto industry supports one of every 10 jobs in the United States? Of course that would include Ford, which is not a part of the loan but, when you consider that number is 14 million jobs, and I only have to prove 3 million…well, I’ll leave it at that. Do we have a deal? And tree scrambles off looking for some weird ass sig for the OM.
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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post

    So what? The one term Marxist president Barack Hussein Obama has done more for the Communist Chinese than all previous presidents combined. That has to count for something.
    You forgot to throw in that he's also a Moslem and a dictator.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by treedancer View Post
    What’s in it for me? What say you if I point you towards a study that shows that the auto industry supports one of every 10 jobs in the United States? Of course that would include Ford, which is not a part of the loan but, when you consider that number is 14 million jobs, and I only have to prove 3 million…well, I’ll leave it at that. Do we have a deal? And tree scrambles off looking for some weird ass sig for the OM.
    I hate to break it to you but GM/Chrysler AREN'T the Auto Industry, they are PART OF the auto industry and if you think they were going to go totally out fo business you are nuts. Someone would have taken over and provided parts for all those GM/Chrysler cars on the road. Like all liberals you have no concept of how our economy works and GM/Chrysler should have been allowed to fail just like any other business. You want badly to believe what you are told and fail to think of the costs associated with those bailout vs any perceived benefit. In addition to also ignore that Chrysler is not owned by the Italians. Keep buying the rhetoric.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I hate to break it to you but GM/Chrysler AREN'T the Auto Industry, they are PART OF the auto industry and if you think they were going to go totally out fo business you are nuts. Someone would have taken over and provided parts for all those GM/Chrysler cars on the road. Like all liberals you have no concept of how our economy works and GM/Chrysler should have been allowed to fail just like any other business. You want badly to believe what you are told and fail to think of the costs associated with those bailout vs any perceived benefit. In addition to also ignore that Chrysler is not owned by the Italians. Keep buying the rhetoric.
    I guess this is your way of saying that you don’t want to bet eh?
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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I hate to break it to you but GM/Chrysler AREN'T the Auto Industry, they are PART OF the auto industry and if you think they were going to go totally out fo business you are nuts. Someone would have taken over and provided parts for all those GM/Chrysler cars on the road. Like all liberals you have no concept of how our economy works and GM/Chrysler should have been allowed to fail just like any other business. You want badly to believe what you are told and fail to think of the costs associated with those bailout vs any perceived benefit. In addition to also ignore that Chrysler is not owned by the Italians. Keep buying the rhetoric.
    No one who knows the first thing about the subject thinks that GM or Chrysler could have been saved without the government's involvement. I can understand how you might argue that they should have been allowed to fail, but spare us the childish fantasy that they would not have disappeared but for the bailout.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No one who knows the first thing about the subject thinks that GM or Chrysler could have been saved without the government's involvement. I can understand how you might argue that they should have been allowed to fail, but spare us the childish fantasy that they would not have disappeared but for the bailout.
    Adam, they would have filed bankruptcy reogranization. Unions would have been the ultimate loser in that case. He didnt step in to save the auto industry, he stepped in to save the UAW. They are much more who he views as supporters and constituents than the companies and management of same.

    To say there is no way they could have been saved is not accurate, we have no way to be absolutely sure.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Adam, they would have filed bankruptcy reogranization. Unions would have been the ultimate loser in that case. He didnt step in to save the auto industry, he stepped in to save the UAW. They are much more who he views as supporters and constituents than the companies and management of same.

    To say there is no way they could have been saved is not accurate, we have no way to be absolutely sure.
    Just as your not absolutely sure that "he stepped in to save the UAW "eh?
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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