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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    The Obama results which obviously you have no interest in seeing show that indeed the economic numbers are mostly worse but let's face it Obama is a better singer and campaigner than anyone running against him. He sure has you fooled.
    If Obama's results on unemployment are as bad as you say, what does that say about every other Republican president going back to Hoover since they all performed worse than Obama up until this point, except for Reagan, who has performed the same as the unemployment rate increased by ˝ a point during his first 36 months in office...

    Here's a list of presidents, along with the percentage of increase, or decrease, of the U3 unemployment rate after 36 months in office...



    Nixon +2.4 +71%
    Ford* +2.0 +36%
    GHW Bush +1.9 +35%
    Bush +1.5 +36%
    Eisenhower +1.1 +38%
    Reagan +0.5 +7%
    Obama +0.5 +6%
    Kennedy** -1.2 -14%
    Carter -1.2 -16%
    Clinton -1.7 -23%
    Johnson -2.1 -37%

    * = Ford was in office 29 months

    ** = Kennedy was in office 34 months


    Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    If Obama's results on unemployment are as bad as you say, what does that say about every other Republican president going back to Hoover since they all performed worse than Obama up until this point, except for Reagan, who has performed the same as the unemployment rate increased by ˝ a point during his first 36 months in office...

    Here's a list of presidents, along with the percentage of increase, or decrease, of the U3 unemployment rate after 36 months in office...



    Nixon +2.4 +71%
    Ford* +2.0 +36%
    GHW Bush +1.9 +35%
    Bush +1.5 +36%
    Eisenhower +1.1 +38%
    Reagan +0.5 +7%
    Obama +0.5 +6%
    Kennedy** -1.2 -14%
    Carter -1.2 -16%
    Clinton -1.7 -23%
    Johnson -2.1 -37%

    * = Ford was in office 29 months

    ** = Kennedy was in office 34 months


    Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
    Really…that’s your argument? Seems shallow. Any grade school student would argue, correctly, that if the UE rate is low then a nominal change would be a much greater percentage that when it is high…

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by treedancer View Post
    yet even Romney has this to say "And I know the president didn't cause this downturn ".Kinda hits you in the face, considering the drum you've been beatin since he was elected eh?
    Not at all, I know Obama didn't cause the downturn and isn't totally responsible for the recession but we do know that he is responsible for the dismal recovery and lack of leadership. Really is quite shocking how little liberals on this thread know about leadership and the responsibilities of a leader.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Really…that’s your argument? Seems shallow. Any grade school student would argue, correctly, that if the UE rate is low then a nominal change would be a much greater percentage that when it is high…
    Ummm, even a grade school student could see I included the change in percentage points in that chart.

    Reagan was the only Republican to not do worse than Obama, but after 36 months in office, even he did no better.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Really…that’s your argument? Seems shallow. Any grade school student would argue, correctly, that if the UE rate is low then a nominal change would be a much greater percentage that when it is high…
    Now there you go confusing Sheik with actual facts. He obviously cannot comprehend that reality for to Sheik percentage change is the all important factor, having actual unemployed more than when he took office isn't a problem to Obama supporters since the percentage change is less. That is liberal logic. Actual numbers don't matter, higher unemployment, fewer employed, lower labor force, discouraged workers are irrelevant since the percentage change is all that matters except to those actual individuals affected.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Now there you go confusing Sheik with actual facts. He obviously cannot comprehend that reality for to Sheik percentage change is the all important factor, having actual unemployed more than when he took office isn't a problem to Obama supporters since the percentage change is less. That is liberal logic. Actual numbers don't matter, higher unemployment, fewer employed, lower labor force, discouraged workers are irrelevant since the percentage change is all that matters except to those actual individuals affected.
    Wow, turns out there are two righties who couldn't see the increase/decrease of percentage points in that chart.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Ummm, even a grade school student could see I included the change in percentage points in that chart.

    Reagan was the only Republican to not do worse than Obama, but after 36 months in office, even he did no better.
    After 36 months in office Reagan had a net job gain, growing labor force, fewer people unemployed and strong economic growth. I recall you claiming that you voted for Reagan, interesting how someone who voted for Reagan can now be such a leftwing zealot.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    After 36 months in office Reagan had a net job gain, growing labor force, fewer people unemployed and strong economic growth. I recall you claiming that you voted for Reagan, interesting how someone who voted for Reagan can now be such a leftwing zealot.
    So what? Unemployment was still up ˝ a percentage point after 33 months in office. Same as Obama. And better than every other Republican president on record.

    And btw, you're off-topic!

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    [...] If you were right, Karl, why all the dishonest editing? People who are correct don't generally have to lie.
    You have repeatedly failed to explain what was dishonest about it. Or what was materially incorrect about it. People who aren't lying can generally explain their claims.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl, in post #377 View Post
    [...] Your source claims: "Revenues are projected to rise from 18.6 percent of GDP this year to almost 20 percent of GDP in 2012 and then remain near that historically high level through 2017. Much of that increase results from [the Bush tax cuts] which are scheduled to expire by December 31, 2010." (also PDF page 13). [...]
    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw, in post #393 View Post
    [...] Funny, THIS is what that paragraph says:
    Revenues are projected to rise from 18.6 percent of GDP this year to almost 20 percent of GDP in 2012 and then remain near that historically high level through 2017. Much of that increase results from two aspects of current law that have been subject to recent policy changes: the growing impact of the alternative minimum tax (AMT) and, even more significantly, various provisions originally enacted in the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2001 (EGTRRA) and the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003 (JGTRRA) and modified by subsequent legislation, which are scheduled to expire by December 31, 2010.
    Which is a damn sight different than you present it. [...]

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    [...] interesting how someone who voted for Reagan can now be such a leftwing zealot.
    I thought that, according to Tea Party standards, Reagan was a leftwing zealot?

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