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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    Look between 2005 and 2010.
    And?

    You should look at the revenue line between 2005 and 2010. That's what drops.

    Still not seeing "it's all the dems fault."
    I clearly did. But if you are right now, right here saying "both parties are responsible for spending growth" then fine. Are you?
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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    And?
    It looks to decrease. It has the trend of going up, but it's not a steady increase. We should be probably drop this subject since it's not even relevant to the issue.


    I clearly did. But if you are right now, right here saying "both parties are responsible for spending growth" then fine. Are you?
    Yes. I'm also saying that since there are people who act like everything is fine now with those in power, I'm going to constantly reinforce the fact that it's not, so, when people consider voting in the future, they'll at least consider a side besides the supposedly fiscally responsible democrats.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    No, the rest of my post clearly proves you wrong. Which is why you won't face it. I dare you to address the points in it. You won't, because you can't handle that you're simply wrong.

    Nobody knows what the 2011 deficit is yet, but it's estimated to be about the same as 2010 (EDIT: some sources say it's down, so maybe my source isn't the latest). And appropriations for 2011 were made in 2010 - when the Dems still had a majority in both houses. So that would blow away your whole argument anyway. But you won't man up and respond with substance. You'll dodge, like you just did now.
    I would have thought that someone clearly as intelligent as you think you are would know that fiscal year 2011 ended on September 30, 2011 so the 2011 deficit is indeed known. As for the rest of your post what you seem to forget is that the Democrats have operated on continuing resolutions for most of the time they have been in power, rejected the Ryan Budget, and have no interest in implementing the many bills that the Republican House has submitted to the Senate. That way they can run against a do nothing Congress as they call it and people like you buy the rhetoric. Amazing how you now take credit for that do nothing Congress by supporting the thread topic and telling us how much things are getting better.

    Deficit reporting

    http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/NPGateway
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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post

    So let me ask YOU about Bush now.
    This is how screwy the right is when it comes to logic and common sense ... When Bush started, the debt was growing at an annual rate of about 22 billion

    1.20.2000: 5,706,174,969,874
    1.19.2001: 5,727,776,738,305

    Bush started with 22 billion and raised it to
    1440 billion during his final year in office.

    1.20.2008: 9,188,640,287,930
    1.19.2009: 10,628,881,485,510

    Over the course of this last year, the debt increased 1251 billion.

    2.03.2011: 14,100,427,020,881
    2.02.2012: 15,351,406,294,640

    Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

    Bush increases the annual debt growth from 22 billion to 1440 billion ... Conservatives applaud Bush

    Obama decreases the annual debt growth from 1440 billion to 1251 billion ... Conservatives think Obama is the antichrist.


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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    This is how screwy the right is when it comes to logic and common sense ... When Bush started, the debt was growing at an annual rate of about 22 billion

    1.20.2000: 5,706,174,969,874
    1.19.2001: 5,727,776,738,305

    Bush started with 22 billion and raised it to
    1440 billion during his final year in office.

    1.20.2008: 9,188,640,287,930
    1.19.2009: 10,628,881,485,510

    Over the course of this last year, the debt increased 1251 billion.

    2.03.2011: 14,100,427,020,881
    2.02.2012: 15,351,406,294,640

    Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

    Bush increases the annual debt growth from 22 billion to 1440 billion ... Conservatives applaud Bush

    Obama decreases the annual debt growth from 1440 billion to 1251 billion ... Conservatives think Obama is the antichrist.

    Jan-09 Jan-12
    Unemployment 12049 12754
    Discouraged 734 1059
    Private Sector Emp 133563 131900
    Labor Force 154236 154395
    Total Employment 142187 141637

    Obama today has a net job loss
    Obama today has a declining labor force
    Obama today has fewer people employed than when he took office
    Obama today has almost a million discouraged workers which he has averaged over the past three years
    Obama today has a U-6 unemployment of 15.2% or 24 million unemployed/under employed Americans
    Obama today has add 154395
    ed 4.6 trillion dollars to the debt in 3 years
    Obama today spent over 842 billion in a stimulus plan that failed
    Obama today has a higher misery index than when he took office
    Obama today has participated in crony capitalism and wasted billions of taxpayer dollars trying to pick winners in the private sector
    Obama today has promoted class warfare and demonized individual wealth creation
    Obama today has seen record numbers in poverty and record numbers of people on food stamps
    Obama today still claims he brought this country back from the brink of financial collapse when TARP did that and it was Bush's legislation
    Obama today claims he saved the auto industry by taking over GM/Chrysler ignoring that Ford took no bailout money nor did any other Auto Manufacturer. Taxpayer losses will be in the billions
    Obama today has wasted the repayment of TARP and never used the money to pay down the deficit

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    It looks to decrease. It has the trend of going up, but it's not a steady increase. We should be probably drop this subject since it's not even relevant to the issue.
    Okay, but I don't see an decreases, just slower increases.

    Yes. I'm also saying that since there are people who act like everything is fine now with those in power, I'm going to constantly reinforce the fact that it's not, so, when people consider voting in the future, they'll at least consider a side besides the supposedly fiscally responsible democrats.
    And I'll say the exact same thing about the supposedly fiscally responsible Republicans, and now we're even.
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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    I would have thought that someone clearly as intelligent as you think you are would know that fiscal year 2011 ended on September 30, 2011 so the 2011 deficit is indeed known.
    I know, but the first reports are estimates, since accounting for the largest budget in probably the entire world takes time.

    As for the rest of your post
    I DARE you to respond to it point by point. Do you accept the challenge, or will you run away?

    Here are the points I made:

    The "budget" is irrelevant. A budget is completely unnecessary to pass appropriations. It has nothing to do with the need for a continuing resolution.
    And the final appropriation wasn't a continuing resolution - which simply extends the prior year's spending - it was an appropriation, one that simply encompassed several normal appropriations bills into one.
    And Congress passes a budget resolution in the CURRENT year, so what Dems did in a prior year is irrelevant.
    Go ahead.
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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    So have the liberal Democrats thanked Republicans for creating all these jobs?

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Jan-09 Jan-12
    Unemployment 12049 12754
    Discouraged 734 1059
    Private Sector Emp 133563 131900
    Labor Force 154236 154395
    Total Employment 142187 141637

    Obama today has a net job loss
    Obama today has a declining labor force
    Obama today has fewer people employed than when he took office
    Obama today has almost a million discouraged workers which he has averaged over the past three years
    Obama today has a U-6 unemployment of 15.2% or 24 million unemployed/under employed Americans
    Obama today has add 154395
    ed 4.6 trillion dollars to the debt in 3 years
    Obama today spent over 842 billion in a stimulus plan that failed
    Obama today has a higher misery index than when he took office
    Obama today has participated in crony capitalism and wasted billions of taxpayer dollars trying to pick winners in the private sector
    Obama today has promoted class warfare and demonized individual wealth creation
    Obama today has seen record numbers in poverty and record numbers of people on food stamps
    Obama today still claims he brought this country back from the brink of financial collapse when TARP did that and it was Bush's legislation
    Obama today claims he saved the auto industry by taking over GM/Chrysler ignoring that Ford took no bailout money nor did any other Auto Manufacturer. Taxpayer losses will be in the billions
    Obama today has wasted the repayment of TARP and never used the money to pay down the deficit
    Your robospam doesn't even ding my post.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post

    So have the liberal Democrats thanked Republicans for creating all these jobs?
    What policy did they pass which generated them?

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