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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post

    simple enough. they are no longer part of the "working population". functionally it works the same as when discouraged workers drop off the numbers.
    Wrong. You remain confused. There are two buckets. One is the "not in labor force" bucket and the other is the "labor force" bucket. Just because someone is added to the "not in labor force" bucket doesn't mean they came from the "labor force" bucket. Case in point, last month, the "not in labor force" bucket increased by 1.2 million while the "labor force" bucket also increased by .5 million.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    Every source I look up shows a fluctuation of increases and decreases.
    The overall trend is up, and pretty steadily up, I'd say.

    I did because there has been democratic majority, so people can shut the **** up about the democrats "balancing the budge in the 90s."
    This isn't about the 90s. If you want to discuss the 90s, though, I can.

    Well, I'm sorry that you feel that way. I'd suggest writing your local representatives and ask them to actually do something about the problem, then they won't have to take what you feel is unfair blame, since there won't be a problem to address. But, since the democrats in power now only addressed the problem when they didn't have the authority to do something about it, I feel fully justified in calling them out on it. Again, sorry if you feel that doesn't help solve the problem. Maybe if we just shut up about it and let them do whatever they want the problem would be solved.
    See, you're still doing it. You blame it all on the Dems, when spending overall has grown under Republicans too. Stop it.
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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    True.



    False.



    You just admitted it was split. You can't go giving Republicans the credit now.



    Utter bull****.

    The "budget" is irrelevant. A budget is completely unnecessary to pass appropriations. It has nothing to do with the need for a continuing resolution. And the final appropriation wasn't a continuing resolution - which simply extends the prior year's spending - it was an appropriation, one that simply encompassed several normal appropriations bills into one.

    And Congress passes a budget resolution in the CURRENT year, so what Dems did in a prior year is irrelevant. More of you just twisting facts any way you can to try to blame Dems for everything. It's getting completely ridiculous, Conservative. It's obvious to everyone that you can't be trusted with your facts.
    Prove that the 2011 deficit was higher than the 2010 deficit? The rest of your post is baiting

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    The overall trend is up, and pretty steadily up, I'd say.
    Fair enough. "Steadily" isn't the best term though. There have been times when spending decreased.

    This isn't about the 90s. If you want to discuss the 90s, though, I can.
    I know it's not. I'm just explaining why I make sure to point out it's democrats presently spending. So people don't come back later and say "Democrats are the pretty fiscal responsibility." Neither party has a good track record.


    See, you're still doing it. You blame it all on the Dems
    When did I say "all of it is the dems fault?" How many times do I have to say "Republicans spend too" before you admit I don't give a crap about the party but the problem not being solved? Republicans are not presently in a situation to solve the problem. The democrats are. When the Republicans are in that position again and they're not, you'll be seeing plenty of "republicans.." in my posts too. I don't know what more you want.
    , when spending overall has grown under Republicans too. Stop it.
    When did I deny that?
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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Prove that the 2011 deficit was higher than the 2010 deficit? The rest of your post is baiting
    No, the rest of my post clearly proves you wrong. Which is why you won't face it. I dare you to address the points in it. You won't, because you can't handle that you're simply wrong.

    Nobody knows what the 2011 deficit is yet, but it's estimated to be about the same as 2010 (EDIT: some sources say it's down, so maybe my source isn't the latest). And appropriations for 2011 were made in 2010 - when the Dems still had a majority in both houses. So that would blow away your whole argument anyway. But you won't man up and respond with substance. You'll dodge, like you just did now.
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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    Fair enough. "Steadily" isn't the best term though. There have been times when spending decreased.



    I know it's not. I'm just explaining why I make sure to point out it's democrats presently spending. So people don't come back later and say "Democrats are the pretty fiscal responsibility." Neither party has a good track record.




    When did I say "all of it is the dems fault?" How many times do I have to say "Republicans spend too" before you admit I don't give a crap about the party but the problem not being solved? Republicans are not presently in a situation to solve the problem. The democrats are. When the Republicans are in that position again and they're not, you'll be seeing plenty of "republicans.." in my posts too. I don't know what more you want.


    When did I deny that?
    Leadership is about taking responsibility not placing blame. When will Obama understand that?

    CURL: The truly dismal state of the union - Washington Times

    Reaganomics Vs. Obamanomics: Fallacies Offered By The Left - Forbes

    President Obama likes to pretend that a third of his trillion dollar stimulus involved tax cuts too. But those “tax cuts” all involved temporary tax credits which are economically no different from increased government spending. Indeed, a majority of the Obama “tax cuts” were “refundable” income tax credits, which involve sending a government check to people who do not even pay income taxes, economically indistinguishable from increased government spending. That is why even the federal government’s own official beancounters account for such refundable credits in the federal budget as spending rather than tax cuts. Such tax credits do not have the incentive effects of rate cuts explained above

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It is split and the deficit for fiscal year 2011 is down from 2010 and that s because of the Republican submitting lower continuing resolutions since there is no budget thanks to the Democrats refusal to pass one when they were in charge.
    Stop with the lies, Con.

    Federal spending increased in 2011. That is not the reason the deficit fell.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    Fair enough. "Steadily" isn't the best term though. There have been times when spending decreased.
    I don't see any drops in this chart:

    Federal Spending Is Growing Faster Than Federal Revenue

    I know it's not. I'm just explaining why I make sure to point out it's democrats presently spending. So people don't come back later and say "Democrats are the pretty fiscal responsibility." Neither party has a good track record.
    Okay then.

    When did I say "all of it is the dems fault?"
    In post 406 you said:

    What I should say from now, and I urge everyone to, is the "Democrat majority Congress." Of course, the president has to approve all spending, so I guess you could say "The Democrat majority Congress and the President who while being a completely innocent party, stood to the side while this was occurring." Actually, standing to the side isn't exactly right either, since he has to actually sign the budget, so I guess we could say "The Democrat Congress and the President who while being a completely innocent party was forced by his peers to unwillingly put into place, something he completely disagrees with mind you, the..." And then you would say what it is. That way, we wouldn't have these confusions anymore.
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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    I don't see any drops in this chart:

    Federal Spending Is Growing Faster Than Federal Revenue
    Look between 2005 and 2010.




    In post 406 you said:
    Still not seeing "it's all the dems fault." I'm talking about the people presently in power who have the authority to make a change, not every single person who has held office since the beginning of the country. That would be tiresome.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Leadership is about taking responsibility not placing blame.
    So let me ask YOU about Bush now.
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