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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Anyone, conservative or liberal in the private sector would have lost their job if they spent as much money as Obama has spent and generated the results Obama has. Far too many do not understand the role of leadership or the responsibilities of leadership. Seems like responsibility only rests with a Conservative and delegation of responsibility is a liberal trait. Everyone knows a leader cannot delegate responsibility.

    Obama has a net job loss, net employment loss, a labor force equal to or less than when he took office, higher misery index, highest debt in three years in U.S. history, record budgets, record spending, credit rating reduction, lower GDP growth than last year which is the worst GDP growth following any recession in history, and liberals still blame this record on others.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Anyone, conservative or liberal in the private sector would have lost their job if they spent as much money as Obama has spent and generated the results Obama has.
    Presidents don't spend money. Congress does.

    Far too many do not understand the role of leadership or the responsibilities of leadership. Seems like responsibility only rests with a Conservative and delegation of responsibility is a liberal trait. Everyone knows a leader cannot delegate responsibility.
    You just keep going and going, don't you?
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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Presidents don't spend money. Congress does.



    You just keep going and going, don't you?
    The responsibility belongs to Obama, he is the President and he is in charge. He could have vetoed the spending but in fact requested most of it. The deficits are his, accept responsibility.

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    This good economic news really must fry your bacon Conservative. You are in the position of cheering against Americans so can cheer for your own political goals.

    Not a good spot to be in for a proclaimed patriot.
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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Presidents don't spend money. Congress does.
    Good point. I really apologize. What I should say from now, and I urge everyone to, is the "Democrat majority Congress." Of course, the president has to approve all spending, so I guess you could say "The Democrat majority Congress and the President who while being a completely innocent party, stood to the side while this was occurring." Actually, standing to the side isn't exactly right either, since he has to actually sign the budget, so I guess we could say "The Democrat Congress and the President who while being a completely innocent party was forced by his peers to unwillingly put into place, something he completely disagrees with mind you, the..." And then you would say what it is. That way, we wouldn't have these confusions anymore.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    This good economic news really must fry your bacon Conservative. You are in the position of cheering against Americans so can cheer for your own political goals.

    Not a good spot to be in for a proclaimed patriot.
    That is typical and what I expect from someone who has been looking for something to cheer about for the last three years. As usual you pick out a stat and ignore the total content. Apparently since January 2009 there has been no population and no labor force growth. The Obama results speak for themselves but i continue to be amazed at how someone who works for the state govt. has no problem giving more power to the Federal govt. Guess that is the way you delegate responsibility as well as blame for your poor results.

    Obama today has a net job loss
    Obama today has a declining labor force
    Obama today has fewer people employed than when he took office
    Obama today has almost a million discouraged workers which he has averaged over the past three years
    Obama today has a U-6 unemployment of 15.2% or 24 million unemployed/under employed Americans
    Obama today has add 154395
    ed 4.6 trillion dollars to the debt in 3 years
    Obama today spent over 842 billion in a stimulus plan that failed
    Obama today has a higher misery index than when he took office
    Obama today has participated in crony capitalism and wasted billions of taxpayer dollars trying to pick winners in the private sector
    Obama today has promoted class warfare and demonized individual wealth creation
    Obama today has seen record numbers in poverty and record numbers of people on food stamps
    Obama today still claims he brought this country back from the brink of financial collapse when TARP did that and it was Bush's legislation
    Obama today claims he saved the auto industry by taking over GM/Chrysler ignoring that Ford took no bailout money nor did any other Auto Manufacturer. Taxpayer losses will be in the billions
    Obama today has wasted the repayment of TARP and never used the money to pay down the deficit

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The responsibility belongs to Obama, he is the President and he is in charge. He could have vetoed the spending but in fact requested most of it. The deficits are his, accept responsibility.
    False.

    The Constitution gives Congress most of the control over spending decisions.

    Clearly you cannot blame the President just because he didn't veto a bill that Congress passed. Congress clearly holds some responsibility for that.

    Second, a large part of the spending is entitlements, and they aren't appropriated each year. Obama can do nothing about those until Congress sends him a bill to limit them. This shows how the growth in spending has been in entitlements - 5 times faster than appropriated spending:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    Good point. I really apologize.
    Hey, thanks. You'll never hear that from Conservative.

    What I should say from now, and I urge everyone to, is the "Democrat majority Congress."
    Sure, because you're a partisan.

    Spending has increased steadily over the years, regardless of who had a majority in Congress.

    Of course, the president has to approve all spending, so I guess you could say "The Democrat majority Congress and the President who while being a completely innocent party, stood to the side while this was occurring." Actually, standing to the side isn't exactly right either, since he has to actually sign the budget, so I guess we could say "The Democrat Congress and the President who while being a completely innocent party was forced by his peers to unwillingly put into place, something he completely disagrees with mind you, the..." And then you would say what it is. That way, we wouldn't have these confusions anymore.
    You could say all kinds of things.

    You remind me of a guy who I debated once who blame Congress for Reagan's spending increases, even after I patiently explained the veto and appropriations process to him.

    The bottom line is that both parties are to blame for the overall spending trend. This blame game is silly.
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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Hey, thanks. You'll never hear that from Conservative.



    Sure, because you're a partisan.
    Well, I'd blame the Republican majority congress too if there was one. I think what you're missing is the connection the congress has to the president. That's kind of the point. They're not exactly against him. In fact, I'd say they have deep ties to each in which they work to similar interests. That's how a functional party usually works.

    Spending has increased steadily over the years, regardless of who had a majority in Congress.
    Actually, it was going down for several years. The deficit has constantly increased, mainly because simply getting a budget surplus does not equal deficit reduction.

    You remind me of a guy who I debated once who blame Congress for Reagan's spending increases, even after I patiently explained the veto and appropriations process to him.
    I remind you of someone who is arguing the point you're making? Or am I misunderstanding you?


    The bottom line is that both parties are to blame for the overall spending trend. This blame game is silly.
    I agree. Unfortunately, since it appears to me as though everyone thinks Obama is a solution to the problem, I have no choice but constantly point out otherwise. I don't think Obama is the worst president of all time but he's not a step in the right direction. I said this same thing about Bush. Until people start seeing the situation for what it is, I'll have no choice but to ensure I consistently point out the realities of the situation to everyone.

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