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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Medicare expense has actually dropped since Part D but don't let the facts get in the way of your opinions.
    If that is indeed a fact you should have no problem showing the numbers. I do believe you are confused.


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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhapsody1447 View Post
    Truth hurts I know:

    Treasury announces 2011 deficit is second highest in history - The Hill's On The Money
    http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy11/pdf/hist.pdf

    Spending Deficit
    2005 2471.95 -318.34
    2006 2655.05 -248.18
    2007 2728.686 -160.7
    Yes, and prior to the recession, the deficit was on track and projected to disappear, and surpluses reappear, all with the "warz" and the tax cuts intact.

    But when you add nearly a trillion in new spending, that's not going to happen.
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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    If that is indeed a fact you should have no problem showing the numbers. I do believe you are confused.
    You believe wrong.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhapsody1447 View Post
    Truth hurts I know:

    Treasury announces 2011 deficit is second highest in history - The Hill's On The Money
    http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy11/pdf/hist.pdf

    Spending Deficit
    2005 2471.95 -318.34
    2006 2655.05 -248.18

    2007 2728.686 -160.7

    2008 2982.57 -458.553
    2009 3517.67 -1412.688
    2010 3456.21 -1293.48
    2011 3690.00 -1299.0
    You don't appear to be conversant with the truth, since I asked for the source of the figures during the "Republican years". Your link only concerns 2011, and perhaps 2010.

    But since it appears we will not be getting a source for your 2007 figure (-$160.7 billion), I will ask you why that budget deficit is so low when the actual increase in the total public debt for FY 2007 was $500.7 billion?

    Perhaps the Bush-era budgets were hiding things off-budget?



    And whoa, look at that FY 2008 figure -- $1 trillion increase in the public debt!!?? But why do your figures only show a budget deficit of $458 billion?

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    That 3.8T represents an increase of 900BN over the largest Bush budget. So, over three years, at least 2.7T.

    But all spending is under the control of the people in charge now.
    The debt is a function of two figures - expenses and income - you can't assume that if the debt/deficit goes up by x dollars it all spending. The Great Bush recession caused a huge the shortfall of Federal Income taxes and this added to the debt.


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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Did you bother reading that link before posting?


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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The debt is a function of two figures - expenses and income - you can't assume that if the debt/deficit goes up by x dollars it all spending. The Great Bush recession caused a huge the shortfall of Federal Income taxes and this added to the debt.
    The only way for debt to increase, is to spend more money.

    Sorry, but that's just a fact.
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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Yes, and prior to the recession, the deficit was on track and projected to disappear, and surpluses reappear, all with the "warz" and the tax cuts intact. [...]
    Uh huh

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The debt is a function of two figures - expenses and income - you can't assume that if the debt/deficit goes up by x dollars it all spending. The Great Bush recession caused a huge the shortfall of Federal Income taxes and this added to the debt.
    Oh, Pete. Why can you never actually read a post? It gets so ridiculously tiresome.
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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    You don't appear to be conversant with the truth, since I asked for the source of the figures during the "Republican years". Your link only concerns 2011, and perhaps 2010.

    But since it appears we will not be getting a source for your 2007 figure (-$160.7 billion), I will ask you why that budget deficit is so low when the actual increase in the total public debt for FY 2007 was $500.7 billion?

    Perhaps the Bush-era budgets were hiding things off-budget?



    And whoa, look at that FY 2008 figure -- $1 trillion increase in the public debt!!?? But why do your figures only show a budget deficit of $458 billion?
    The cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were never in the budget.


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