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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Exactly. They don't. Which is why I was slamming Veritis and Conservative for trying to establish a connection between the two where none exists.

    That was the nuance which eluded you for skipping to the end of the thread.
    In your world there is no relationship between the person's first claim of unemployment benefits and later in time no longer looking....nothing about you surprises me.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    You don't want to answer the question, so be it, not surprising
    Exactly which part of, "I already answered that question," don't you understand, Con?

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post

    In your world there is no relationship between the person's first claim of unemployment benefits and later in time no longer looking....nothing about you surprises me.
    In my world, the number of people who are looking for work doesn't affect the number of people who aren't looking for work.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Do you think discouraged workers just magically appear without drawing unemployment? You are a partisan, aren't you?

    I just have to smile when I think of how smart you believe you are.
    It's not my fault you can't understand that by the time someone becomes a "discouraged worker," they haven't been counted as an "initial job claim" for at least 3 weeks.

    The number of people filing new claims is not at all impacted by those who gave up looking. I'm sorry, but there's no plainer way to say that.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    My goodness you are a dense one.
    Hisses the person who thinks the weekly number of job seekers who first file for unemployment impacts the number of people who have stopped looking for work for at least 4 weeks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Consider the effect of time. What do you suppose a likely first step is for one who stops looking for work? Just consider that the first step is the loss of a job.
    There is no "effect of time" when looking at any particular date of "initial jobless claims" and "discouraged workers." By the time someone is considered "discouraged", they haven't been considered an "initial jobless claim" for at least 3 weeks or as long as a nearly a year.

    I'll say this again, this time in crayon, maybe that will help you understand ...


    The number of people filing new claims is not at all impacted by those who gave up looking for4 weeks.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Thanks, Winston, for the article about the shrinking labor force, hopefully Adam and Sheik actually read it

    I doubt you did.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Exactly which part of, "I already answered that question," don't you understand, Con?
    The part where you said you answered my question because you didn't and no one here is supporting your claim

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

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    Obviously, but by definition a stimulus was supposed to be short term and what was supposed to happen is leadership kicks in and keeps the economy going. Obama however lacks leadership and thus this is the weakest recovery since the Great Depression. When are you going to admit that Obama is a failure.
    So you admit that the effect of any stimulus is short term, and yet you ask why it didn't have a long term effect? Typical.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

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    So you admit that the effect of any stimulus is short term, and yet you ask why it didn't have a long term effect? Typical.
    Stimulus' are always short term, where did you get the idea they were long term. Leadership has to kick in and the stimulus was designed to give the Congress and President time to turn things around, Obama has failed to show any leadership but that isn't surprising since his resume showed no experience in that area and only the Obama supporters who don't understand leadership don't get it.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post

    Stimulus' are always short term, where did you get the idea they were long term. Leadership has to kick in and the stimulus was designed to give the Congress and President time to turn things around, Obama has failed to show any leadership but that isn't surprising since his resume showed no experience in that area and only the Obama supporters who don't understand leadership don't get it.
    As ever, Obama could walk on water while laying golden eggs and turning blood into wine ... and you'd still manage to turn it into whine.

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