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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I'm better off ... waaaay better off.
    Great, what did Obama do that made things so much better for you?

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

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    Great, what did Obama do that made things so much better for you?
    For one, my 401K is up more than 30%, thanks to his policies which inspired a bull market. For another, my wife, who is a recruiter and stopped working in early 2009 when nobody was hiring, has gone back to work now that the job market is growing stronger, also thanks to his policies which have led to 2 million private sector jobs created since last year.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    For one, my 401K is up more than 30%, thanks to his policies which inspired a bull market. For another, my wife, who is a recruiter and stopped working in early 2009 when nobody was hiring, has gone back to work now that the job market is growing stronger, also thanks to his policies which have led to 2 million private sector jobs created since last year.
    Oh, I see so the market went over 14000 like it did under Bush? Glad you wife is back to work, 24 million unemployed and under employed aren't as lucky. Amazing isn't it that all those jobs created still don't equal what Obama inherited?

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

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    Oh, I see so the market went over 14000 like it did under Bush? Glad you wife is back to work, 24 million unemployed and under employed aren't as lucky. Amazing isn't it that all those jobs created still don't equal what Obama inherited?
    The Dow is not "the market." Don't you know anything? You also don't understand percentages. Shocker

    The Dow was at 10,600 when Bush became president. It took 7 years for it to increase 34%, rising 3,600 points.

    Under Obama, it didn't take 7 years to increase 34%. It was up 34% in 21 months. It's currently up 57%, after rising 4,700 points.

    It's your sycophancy which leads you to believe that a 3,600 point gain after 7 years is better than 4,700 point gain in 3.

    Not to mention the NASDAQ, which at 2,966 is nearly double what it was when he started and higher than at any point while Bush was president.

    And of course, the coup de gras ... even though it took 7 years under Bush to increase 34%, it took 8 years under Bush for it crash to just over 8,000; a 2,300 point loss (22% drop)

    And Bush remains in the undistinguished category with Herbert Hoover as the only presidents to leave office with all indexes of the stock market lower than when they started.

    You're so proud, ain'tcha?

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I've seen it used here (probably by you), but I have no idea what it means. What does it mean?
    It is a reasonable question. A statist believe that the state is, or should be all powerful. The statist minimizes the individual. The person is nothing more than a client to be deceived by the state or a victim to be fleeced by the state. Statists believe in utopias with themselves as the decision-makers. For the statist the ideal citizen is no citizen at all but a subject who is equal to all others in as many ways as possible, in dress, in housing, in transportation, in education, in everything. The statist is very often a socialist, a Marxist, a Communist, or a liberal. Statists dislike individualism but love state power, control, and authority. The statist prefers that the state have dominion over the people, their wealth, their businesses, in short, over their lives.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    They did not have "access to essentially the same intelligence as the President," don't be ridiculous.


    Yes. They do.

    Here's the NIE the president had ...
    http://www.fas.org/irp/cia/product/iraq-wmd-nie.pdf

    ...and here's the NIE that everyone in the Congress had ...

    http://usiraq.procon.org/sourcefiles...20Estimate.pdf

    [COLOR=#0000FF]Those two documents not alike, not even "essentially."
    Nice dodge. The entire house and the entire Senate are remarkably untrustworthy people. Let me try this again. "The leadership on the intelligence communities have regular, enduring intelligence briefings. The leadership of both parties are briefed and may ask questions. If you did not know that before you know it now."

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    The only members of Congress who had access to the 96 page NIE the president had access to were the members of the intelligence committees and they are not allowed to provide classified intell to other members without the proper clearance. That doesn't mean intelligence committee members don't sometimes slip up but that is not access.
    See? You do get it although you pretend that you do not.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    The Dow is not "the market." Don't you know anything? You also don't understand percentages. Shocker

    The Dow was at 10,600 when Bush became president. It took 7 years for it to increase 34%, rising 3,600 points.

    Under Obama, it didn't take 7 years to increase 34%. It was up 34% in 21 months. It's currently up 57%, after rising 4,700 points.

    It's your sycophancy which leads you to believe that a 3,600 point gain after 7 years is better than 4,700 point gain in 3.

    Not to mention the NASDAQ, which at 2,966 is nearly double what it was when he started and higher than at any point while Bush was president.

    And of course, the coup de gras ... even though it took 7 years under Bush to increase 34%, it took 8 years under Bush for it crash to just over 8,000; a 2,300 point loss (22% drop)

    And Bush remains in the undistinguished category with Herbert Hoover as the only presidents to leave office with all indexes of the stock market lower than when they started.

    You're so proud, ain'tcha?
    Sorry, Sheik, but you have too bad of a case of BDS and that serves no purpose.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Yes. They do.


    Nice dodge. The entire house and the entire Senate are remarkably untrustworthy people. Let me try this again. "The leadership on the intelligence communities have regular, enduring intelligence briefings. The leadership of both parties are briefed and may ask questions. If you did not know that before you know it now."



    See? You do get it although you pretend that you do not.

    It will never be true no matter how many times you repeat it.

    The fact is, there were two copies of the NIE (and for a reason, despite your empty denials)

    One was 96 pages

    http://www.fas.org/irp/cia/product/iraq-wmd-nie.pdf

    One was 28 pages

    http://usiraq.procon.org/sourcefiles...20Estimate.pdf

    They were not the same.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, no one here is a statist. Such limited thinking poisons discourse.
    Actually Boo, there are many here who take statist positions. Those who want to increase taxes on "the rich" for example are statists. It is seductive to think you can get something that others must pay for. That is why the number of statists have grown over time.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Sorry, Sheik, but you have too bad of a case of BDS and that serves no purpose.
    Your inability to address a word that I said is duly noted, Con.



    Speaking of which, are you still refusing to take the bet that you made? Are you still running away?

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