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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Only if you believe the biggest attack on the U.S. soil allowed for an accurate comparison. The Obama economic policies have made the recovery we have today the worse in modern history and the recession he claimed he inherited wasn't as bad as the recession Reagan had and Reagan showed the leadership that Obama lacks. You never heard Reagan talking about taxing one class over another but instead promoted the greatness of America. Obama doesn't have a clue nor do his supporters.
    Riiight ... that attack did so much damage [not] to our economy, that the recession we were in at the time ended just two months later.


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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

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    Does it make sense to you that there were 132 million employed in your report and 138 in the report I listed. Don't you think 130 million sounds low?
    NO IT DON'T. Total nonfarm gives a more complete idea of employment of this COUNTRY.It seems that you cherry pick any data that agrees with whatever you are attempting to prove at the moment.And sometimes that changes from thread to thread, as Sheik has proven time and again.
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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    I am sure those 24 million unemployed/under employed Americans are very impressed by your percentage change.Is that liberal compassion in your world? Is it true that Obama is the second worst President in U.S. History in your world?
    Since when do you care about the underemployed, Con?? For Bush's eight years and including his Great Recession, there were 15 million additional un/under-employed. You didn't care about them then.

    For Obama's 3 years and including Bush's Great Recession under his watch, there are an additional 1.4 million un/under-employed.

    Bush loses 10 times the number of people Obama lost to un/under-employment...


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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Only a nut would claim Reagan's recession was worse. The two leading indicators of the economy are GDP and unemployment and both were far worse during Bush's Great Recession.

    GDP:
    Q2-1981: 5,952.7
    Q4-1982: 5,866.0
    Reagan: -1.5% growth

    Q4-2007: 13,326.0
    Q2-2009: 12,641.3
    Bush: -5.1% growth


    http://www.bea.gov/national/xls/gdplev.xls

    Unemployment:
    06/1981: 8,098,000
    11/1982: 11,938,000
    Reagan: 3,840,000 additional unemployed (A 47% increase)

    12/2007: 8,989,000
    06/2009: 16,903,000
    Bush: 7,914,000 additional unemployed (An 88% increase)


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    Unless you can tell me the economic plan that Reagan had that put us in a recession that Carter economy really sucked didn't it? Still waiting for you to answer my question about Obama's numbers being worse than Carter's and since Carter is considered the worst President in modern history what does that say then about Obama? Apparently the American people don't have the same opinion as you do regarding the Obama economic results and are more in line with reality

    Obama won the election with 52% of the vote and today his approval rating is 44%. What do those 8% see that you don't?


    Gallup 2/23 - 2/25 1500 A 44 46 -2
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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Does it make sense to you that there were 132 million employed in your report and 138 in the report I listed. Don't you think 130 million sounds low?
    Yes, that's how many non-farm people were on payrolls.

    Now ya know.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Since when do you care about the underemployed, Con?? For Bush's eight years and including his Great Recession, there were 15 million additional un/under-employed. You didn't care about them then.

    For Obama's 3 years and including Bush's Great Recession under his watch, there are an additional 1.4 million un/under-employed.

    Bush loses 10 times the number of people Obama lost to un/under-employment...


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    Obama, record number of discouraged workers, record number of Unemployed/under employed, record deficits, record debt, wasted money on green energy companies/crony capitalism, "Obama, Four more years!!"

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Yes, that's how many non-farm people were on payrolls.

    Now ya know.
    The total employment number was 138 million and that is the number used to show participation rate and subtract that from the labor force generates the unemployment number, then back out the discouraged workers and you get the U-3 number. Keep running from the Carter vs Obama numbers and the tough question. Guess your silence says it all.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Unless you can tell me the economic plan that Reagan had that put us in a recession that Carter economy really sucked didn't it? Still waiting for you to answer my question about Obama's numbers being worse than Carter's and since Carter is considered the worst President in modern history what does that say then about Obama? Apparently the American people don't have the same opinion as you do regarding the Obama economic results and are more in line with reality
    I've already answered that many times. That aside, it's irrelevant to this argument what Reagan did. By the two leading measures of the economy, GDP and unemployment, Bush's Great Recession was far worse.

    GDP:
    Reagan: -1.5% growth
    Bush: -5.1% growth

    Unemployment:
    Reagan: 3,840,000 additional unemployed (A 47% increase)
    Bush: 7,914,000 additional unemployed (An 88% increase)



    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Obama won the election with 52% of the vote and today his approval rating is 44%. What do those 8% see that you don't?


    Gallup 2/23 - 2/25 1500 A 44 46 -2
    WTF?? You're comparing the results of an election with a gallup poll??

    If you were honest, and you're not, you would compare a Gallup poll with a Gallup poll. Gallup's lat poll before the 2008 election predicted Obama would receive 45% of the vote. So Obama's down 1 percentage point according to Gallup. So what?


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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    Obama, record number of discouraged workers, record number of Unemployed/under employed, record deficits, record debt, wasted money on green energy companies/crony capitalism, "Obama, Four more years!!"
    Bush lost 15 million to un/under-employment.

    Obama lost 1.4 million (and that number is shrinking every month)

    G'head, keep fluffing for Bush.



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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The total employment number was 138 million and that is the number used to show participation rate and subtract that from the labor force generates the unemployment number, then back out the discouraged workers and you get the U-3 number. Keep running from the Carter vs Obama numbers and the tough question. Guess your silence says it all.
    What the hell you keep yappen about Carter for?
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