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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Jryan View Post
    Great rebuttle .

    Maybe you missed this report that came out....

    Media Matters | Sources | David Brock | The Daily Caller


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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

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    Thanks, j-mac, the real issue is the rest of the story and the one not being told to the Obama supporters. The U-3 unemployment number has been calculated this way since 1994 where discouraged workers aren't counted as unemployed any more but instead they go to the U-6 number. weekly unemployment numbers are only an indicator and the real issue is they don't matter as long as more and more people are dropping out of the work force and getting discouraged thus stop looking for work. If things are going so well for Obama why is his approval rating so low? Anyone with the results Obama claims would definitely be in the 60% approval area. Only the cult followers continue to buy his lies and Obama continues to fuel them.

    Obama continues to fool all his supporters by telling only half the story. What is amazing is the numbers of unemployed and discouraged workers between the Bush years and the Obama years are very similar yet Bush was bad and Obama is the messiah. Don't know what liberalism offers to create such fools but there are far too many of them.
    The U3 rate is calculated the same way it's been calculated for close to 2 decades now. Same for the U6 rate. Bizarre doesn't even begin to describe how it took you 18 years to decide the BLS is fooling Americans.

    And by any measure, the unemployment rate, is not much higher than when Obama started.

    As far as Obama's JAR, his average is 47.9%; Bush's average at this same point in his presidency was 49%.

    And I note that my challenge to you to explain how Obama is manipulating the numbers remains unanswered.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Maybe you missed this report that came out....

    Media Matters | Sources | David Brock | The Daily Caller


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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    David Brock is a piece of **** who shifts his ideology based on the dollar signs he sees in his eyes. He was a staunch Conservative while that paid his bills. When it became financially expedient, he became a Liberal.
    I sure would like to see your evidence that he shifted from the right to the left for financial reasons. Typically writers on the right make far more money than those on the left.


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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    The U3 rate is calculated the same way it's been calculated for close to 2 decades now. Same for the U6 rate. Bizarre doesn't even begin to describe how it took you 18 years to decide the BLS is fooling Americans.

    And by any measure, the unemployment rate, is not much higher than when Obama started.

    As far as Obama's JAR, his average is 47.9%; Bush's average at this same point in his presidency was 49%.

    And I note that my challenge to you to explain how Obama is manipulating the numbers remains unanswered.
    Yes, it is, been calculated the same way for the past two decades and shows that Bush had half the discouraged workers as Obama had so add the unemployed and discouraged workers for both Presidents for a true picture of unemployment. By all measurement Obama loses and Bush didn't spend 4.6 trillion in three yers to generate those numbers. As for percentages you don't seem to understand the higher the base the lower the percentage thus a 4.6 trillion dollar debt in three years when you start at 10.6 trillion isn't nearlhy as high as a 4.9 increase in the debt in 8 years when the base was 5.7 trillion.

    No where did I say that Obama was manipulating the numbers, that is a downright lie from an intellectually dishonest liberal. I said he was telling part of the story and fooling people like you by not telling the whole story which is as I have posted many times, unemployment higher today it was when Obama took office, employment lower, more discouraged workers, and a labor force that hasn't kept up with population growth. You can continue to play your game but the reality shows Obama less popular today than when he took office and if his numbers were as you believe they wouldn't be lower, they would be higher.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    David Brock is a piece of **** who shifts his ideology based on the dollar signs he sees in his eyes. He was a staunch Conservative while that paid his bills. When it became financially expedient, he became a Liberal.
    Blinded by an ideology defines most liberals including you. You have no concept as to what made this country great and since you seem to believe you are successful you support policies in defiance of htat success. What govt. program made you successful? Has the govt. ever bailed you out of a personal responsibility issue that you failed on?

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    The U3 rate is calculated the same way it's been calculated for close to 2 decades now. Same for the U6 rate. Bizarre doesn't even begin to describe how it took you 18 years to decide the BLS is fooling Americans.

    The fact that the American people have not been told the truth about the health of their country is certainly not a selling point for Obama is it now?


    And by any measure, the unemployment rate, is not much higher than when Obama started.
    Did you far left progressives vote in droves for the status quo? I don't think so... Heck even Obama said himself that if he didn't improve things then his Presidency would be a "One term proposition"... Here see for yourself.




    As far as Obama's JAR, his average is 47.9%; Bush's average at this same point in his presidency was 49%.

    So Bush did a better job in American's eyes...Thanks for admitting that.

    And I note that my challenge to you to explain how Obama is manipulating the numbers remains unanswered.
    I wouldn't go as far as to say that Obama is actually 'manipulating' the numbers, but I would say that his staff is spinning wildly. Leaving out anything that points to the failures, and making excuses for things, then when you have something like a flat month in employment, or even a small gain, he is pumping that like we should all put 'happy days are here again' on the stereo and turn it up.

    David Brock is a piece of **** who shifts his ideology based on the dollar signs he sees in his eyes. He was a staunch Conservative while that paid his bills. When it became financially expedient, he became a Liberal.
    Yes, but he is YOUR piece of ****....I would say he was ever a 'staunch conservative' either. But the point is, that the lid is blown off the relationship between, MM, the WH, MSNBC, and other outlets, writing direct scripts for broadcast. You know who else uses media as propaganda outlets for their message?

    Dictators, thugs, and communist/socialist scum.


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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post

    I sure would like to see your evidence that he shifted from the right to the left for financial reasons. Typically writers on the right make far more money than those on the left.


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    You posted the evidence for me. He defected from the right to write the book you linked.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post

    No where did I say that Obama was manipulating the numbers, that is a downright lie from an intellectually dishonest liberal. I said he was telling part of the story and fooling people like you by not telling the whole story...
    You said he's fooling people like me. How is that possible when I'm fully aware of the U6 rate? So how is Obama fooling people like me who know the U6 rate includes marginally attached workers unless he is manipulating the numbers?

    You remain stuck on your own petard.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, it is, been calculated the same way for the past two decades and shows that Bush had half the discouraged workers as Obama had so add the unemployed and discouraged workers for both Presidents for a true picture of unemployment. By all measurement Obama loses and Bush didn't spend 4.6 trillion in three yers to generate those numbers. As for percentages you don't seem to understand the higher the base the lower the percentage thus a 4.6 trillion dollar debt in three years when you start at 10.6 trillion isn't nearlhy as high as a 4.9 increase in the debt in 8 years when the base was 5.7 trillion.

    No where did I say that Obama was manipulating the numbers, that is a downright lie from an intellectually dishonest liberal. I said he was telling part of the story and fooling people like you by not telling the whole story which is as I have posted many times, unemployment higher today it was when Obama took office, employment lower, more discouraged workers, and a labor force that hasn't kept up with population growth. You can continue to play your game but the reality shows Obama less popular today than when he took office and if his numbers were as you believe they wouldn't be lower, they would be higher.
    "downright lie from an intellectually dishonest liberal...." say con, i seem to remember you get on somebody the other day over what you perceived to be a personal attack......hmmmmm...perhaps practicing what you preach would be in order? just sayin'

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