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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Sounds like more of the usual claptrap spewed by the right in their never-ending hatred of the left. How do I hate thee, let me count the ways.

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    Apparently, they've added "statism" to their cabal of hatred. At any rate, by the definition you offer, all politicians are "statists" since they are employed by the state to "get involved" in the lives of individuals [collectively].
    Its not a matter of hatred, its a matter of reality. If you want larger government, what you want is greater state involvement in the lives and decisions of the individual. You want the state to determine, for instance, what you must purchase with regard to health insurance; you want the state to determine how many miles per gallon your automobile must get; you want the state to mandate your participation in a state run retirement program; you want the state to determine what activities--smoking, for example--are permitted on private property. I could go on, but the list is endless, so I think you get my point. Its not that I hate you, I disagree with you. Hopefully, you can make that distinction.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    This is one of the most useless stats in the country. How long term are these jobs, what type are they, what is the pay scale?
    Oddly, I don't recall hearing that complaint when the uneployment rate was rising under Obama's watch. The big complaint then from the right was how Obama promised to keep the unemployment rate under 8%. It seems thd only time the unemployment rate is "useless" to righties is when it's decreasing and there's a Democrat in the White House.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Its not a matter of hatred, its a matter of reality. If you want larger government, what you want is greater state involvement in the lives and decisions of the individual. You want the state to determine, for instance, what you must purchase with regard to health insurance; you want the state to determine how many miles per gallon your automobile must get; you want the state to mandate your participation in a state run retirement program; you want the state to determine what activities--smoking, for example--are permitted on private property. I could go on, but the list is endless, so I think you get my point. Its not that I hate you, I disagree with you. Hopefully, you can make that distinction.
    So, you believe in anarchy?


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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Its not a matter of hatred, its a matter of reality. If you want larger government, what you want is greater state involvement in the lives and decisions of the individual. You want the state to determine, for instance, what you must purchase with regard to health insurance; you want the state to determine how many miles per gallon your automobile must get; you want the state to mandate your participation in a state run retirement program; you want the state to determine what activities--smoking, for example--are permitted on private property. I could go on, but the list is endless, so I think you get my point. Its not that I hate you, I disagree with you. Hopefully, you can make that distinction.
    Yes, you could go on, but that would only compound your errors. For example, smoking in restaurants was banned in my state by a Conservative Republican governor. When you paint with such a broad brush, all you're going to do is get paint all over yourself.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Yes, you could go on, but that would only compound your errors. For example, smoking in restaurants was banned in my state by a Conservative Republican governor. When you paint with such a broad brush, all you're going to do is get paint all over yourself.
    No, because there are republican statists does not make you less of one. Generally speaking, I would like right wing statists out of my bedroom and left wing statists out of my wallet. How's that?

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    No, because there are republican statists does not make you less of one. Generally speaking, I would like right wing statists out of my bedroom and left wing statists out of my wallet. How's that?
    Still not good enough because based on the definitions provided by posters hete for "statist," all politicians are statists.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    No, because there are republican statists does not make you less of one. Generally speaking, I would like right wing statists out of my bedroom and left wing statists out of my wallet. How's that?
    So basically, you don't want any government at all.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Still not good enough because based on the definitions provided by posters hete for "statist," all politicians are statists.
    I wasnt arguing otherwise. I was responding to the notion that no one fit the definition of statist.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    So basically, you don't want any government at all.
    No, I want a state that defends the rights of the individual, and leaves us otherwise free to pursue our own interests.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    No, I want a state that defends the rights of the individual, and leaves us otherwise free to pursue our own interests.
    You mean you want a state that defends the rights that YOU think are important, but not necessarily those that other folks think are important.

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