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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    No, no one here is a statist. Such limited thinking poisons discourse.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, no one here is a statist. Such limited thinking poisons discourse.

    If you say so... I was presenting a definition.


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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    If you say so... I was presenting a definition.


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    That's why I didn't link it to your comment.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    That's why I didn't link it to your comment.
    Ok, in that case I will go further and say that there are some that are indeed 'statist' in thought.


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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, in that case I will go further and say that there are some that are indeed 'statist' in thought.


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    No doubt there are are some. I'm not one of them, nor is Obama or most liberals.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No doubt there are are some. I'm not one of them, nor is Obama or most liberals.
    So you know Obama and MOST Liberals? Your opinion is just that, an opinion

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    You have the individual and you have the collective. Statists believe that true power, rights and authority emanate from the state, not the individual. While they often dont deny that the individual has rights, those rights are subordinate to the supposed rights of the collective, and are determined and enforced by the state. Statists want the state involved in virtually every aspect of life and economic activity. You can see it in the way the two opposing ideologies view the Constitution. The statist believe that the state can do whatever is not prohibited by the Constitution, the individualist believes the state is limited to those powers enumerated in the Constitution.

    You could argue whether Obama or your typical leftist is a socialist or not, but not wheter or not they are statists. They are.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    You have the individual and you have the collective. Statists believe that true power, rights and authority emanate from the state, not the individual. While they often dont deny that the individual has rights, those rights are subordinate to the supposed rights of the collective, and are determined and enforced by the state. Statists want the state involved in virtually every aspect of life and economic activity. You can see it in the way the two opposing ideologies view the Constitution. The statist believe that the state can do whatever is not prohibited by the Constitution, the individualist believes the state is limited to those powers enumerated in the Constitution.

    You could argue whether Obama or your typical leftist is a socialist or not, but not wheter or not they are statists. They are.
    Sounds like more of the usual claptrap spewed by the right in their never-ending hatred of the left. How do I hate thee, let me count the ways.

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    Apparently, they've added "statism" to their cabal of hatred. At any rate, by the definition you offer, all politicians are "statists" since they are employed by the state to "get involved" in the lives of individuals [collectively].
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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I think this is pretty close...




    I think in fact this is pretty close to how liberal progressives in this day see their role, which is why Obama must go.

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    But wait, that definition says a statist is one who decides how much of your money you get to keep ... Since there is no one in politics who doesn't promote zero taxation, all politicians are "statists." And by extension, all individuals who vote for those "statists" become statists themselves for promoting statism.

    So if you've ever voted, you're a statist too.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    This is one of the most useless stats in the country. How long term are these jobs, what type are they, what is the pay scale?
    It's nothing more than X's and O's.

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