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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    My posts on the matter were neither deceiptful nor faulty. In countering the absurd claim that the Senate and House have access to the same intel as the president, I pointed out that access was limited to a select few, that the vast majority of Congress does not share that same level of clearance as the president.
    The Senate and the House DO have access to essentially the same intelligence as the President. The leadership on the intelligence communities have regular, enduring intelligence briefings. The leadership of both parties are briefed and may ask questions. If you did not know that before you know it now.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    First, everyone doesn't have clearance to get the full brief. Second, even those who did have clearance were fed selective and unreliable intelligence, courtesy of Bush's "novel" intelligence gathering system.
    An alternative view of stovepiping is a check on the quality of the intelligence provided by the community. When used properly it opens additional avenues for creative questions.

    Your allegation is dopey.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    No matter how many times you repeat this nonsense, it will never be true. The vast majority of Congress did not have the same level of access as Bush. While they can ask all the questions they want, classified intel from the NIE could not be disseminated to them from the select members of the intelligence committees. Deal with it.
    Unfortunately members of Congress cannot be trusted.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    "In February 2007, the Pentagon's inspector general issued a report that concluded that Feith's office "developed, produced, and then disseminated alternative intelligence assessments on the Iraq and al Qaida relationship, which included some conclusions that were inconsistent with the consensus of the Intelligence Community, to senior decision-makers." The report found that these actions were "inappropriate" though not "illegal."
    That is a good assessment of the practice. It is an excellent way to get an alternative view. It is not intended to be the final answer. The guys in the community generally hate it. But so what? The goal is to give the decision-maker an alternative view. If the DM is any good he will use it to ask better questions of the pros.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by treedancer View Post
    Romney wont be the nominee. It will be Santorum and aspirin birth control running. It will be clown show times two.
    I am glad to hear it. I have supported him with money. If he wins the nomination, as you say he will, I will support him with money and time.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
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    You guys are as predictable as the sun setting.
    If it turns out you are right and the one term Marxist becomes a two term Marxist the setting sun will be the sun setting on what remains of freedom and liberty.

    I have a bad feeling about our future. Either way it may already be too late to escape the socialism we are already mired in.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    If it turns out you are right and the one term Marxist becomes a two term Marxist the setting sun will be the sun se,tting on what remains of freedom and liberty.

    I have a bad feeling about our future. Either way it may already be too late to escape the socialism we are already mired in.
    Yeah Damn FDR and LBJ anyway.


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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Yeah Damn FDR and LBJ anyway.
    Now this is something we CAN agree upon.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    That is a good assessment of the practice. It is an excellent way to get an alternative view. It is not intended to be the final answer. The guys in the community generally hate it. But so what? The goal is to give the decision-maker an alternative view. If the DM is any good he will use it to ask better questions of the pros.
    It's a crappy way to get an "alternative view", because law makers have no idea how to judge the credibility of the information. In fact the whole point is to selectively feed them information that hasn't been vetted for reliability. The reason they did it was that the vetted information didn't support the policy they were pushing (war).

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It's a crappy way to get an "alternative view", because law makers have no idea how to judge the credibility of the information. In fact the whole point is to selectively feed them information that hasn't been vetted for reliability. The reason they did it was that the vetted information didn't support the policy they were pushing (war).
    How would the Congress receive that alternate view? It is the Intelligence Community that has the responsibility for informing the leadership of the House and the Senate. Who briefed them? Who responded to the questions those very powerful and wise Congress critters no doubt had?
    Last edited by Misterveritis; 02-17-12 at 09:02 PM.

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