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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    So what? You could have 3 close family members who went to the moon, that wouldn't make you an astronaut. And you could have had 100 close relatives serve in Iraq, that wouldn't have made WMD suddenly appear in Iraq or bring back to life the 5,000 dead Americans or 100,000+ dead Iraqis who were killed because George Bush invaded them over WMD which weren't even there.

    But again, if Obama ever does anything as bone-headed as that, voting for him again would be a disastrous mistake. Only an idiot would vote for a loser like that.
    You mean as boneheaded as this?

    What Did The Democrats Say About Iraq's WMD
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    JANUARY 30, 2004

    "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
    - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

    "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
    - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

    "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
    - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

    "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
    - President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

    "We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."
    - Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998

    "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
    - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

    "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
    Letter to President Clinton.
    - (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998

    "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
    - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

    "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
    - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

    "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
    - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

    "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
    - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 |

    "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
    - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 |

    "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
    - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 |

    "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
    - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

    "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
    - Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

    "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
    - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 |

    "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
    - Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 |


    Then of course there is "Slam Dunk' George Tenet, Clinton's Director of the CIA
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/wmdquotes.asp
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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You mean as boneheaded as this?



    snopes.com: Weapons of Mass Destruction Quotes
    Had any one of those people had the same 96 page NIE that George Bush had, they wouldn't have made those comments. Bush had more id information than tbey had and he was the only one who could deploy troops on a wild goose chase through Iraq for WMD which weren't there.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You mean as boneheaded as this?



    snopes.com: Weapons of Mass Destruction Quotes
    So, eight quotes from Democrats after 1999, and none from 2003, when Bush kicked out the UN inspectors and launched the invasion?

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You mean as boneheaded as this?



    snopes.com: Weapons of Mass Destruction Quotes
    Did anyone of those people start a war of choice in Iraq? NO!


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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    So, eight quotes from Democrats after 1999, and none from 2003, when Bush kicked out the UN inspectors and launched the invasion?
    Errr uh...Bush did? Where did you get that? "U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan on Monday ordered all U.N. inspectors and support staff, humanitarian workers and U.N. observers along the Iraq-Kuwait border to evacuate Iraq after U.S. threats to launch war."


    Weapons Inspectors Leave Iraq - CBS News

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Did anyone of those people start a war of choice in Iraq? NO!
    Well, no, but it's possible that some of them may have had 3 family members serve in Iraq.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Had any one of those people had the same 96 page NIE that George Bush had, they wouldn't have made those comments.
    Yes, Congress had a different report but per the following it was not as alarmist as GWB’s. Given this how could they then support the action given their report implied a LESS SEVERE situation…and to your question at least one, Hillary Clinton, got a copy…but that doesn’t mean she, or the others, READ IT!

    The National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) provided to Congress was more "nuanced" and less "alarmist" than information given to the President.[36] However, the vast majority of Senators did not read the NIE and relied on briefings by the administration. Among those who have stated they did not read the NIE and voted positively for the Iraq Resolution are the former Senator and current United States Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Senator John McCain, and former Senator John Edwards.[37]

    Iraq Resolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Had any one of those people had the same 96 page NIE that George Bush had, they wouldn't have made those comments. Bush had more id information than tbey had and he was the only one who could deploy troops on a wild goose chase through Iraq for WMD which weren't there.
    Did you notice that some of the comments were made well before Bush took office? Further do you not understand that the Senate and House have access to all the intelligence data that the President has? Doesn't really matter to someone like you with so much invested in hatred that it blinds you to the actual results of today

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Yes, Congress had a different report but per the following it was not as alarmist as GWB’s. Given this how could they then support the action given their report implied a LESS SEVERE situation…and to your question at least one, Hillary Clinton, got a copy…but that doesn’t mean she, or the others, READ IT!

    The National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) provided to Congress was more "nuanced" and less "alarmist" than information given to the President.[36] However, the vast majority of Senators did not read the NIE and relied on briefings by the administration. Among those who have stated they did not read the NIE and voted positively for the Iraq Resolution are the former Senator and current United States Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Senator John McCain, and former Senator John Edwards.[37]

    Iraq Resolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The highly redacted NIE did not contain the doubt of the existence of WMD that the full NIE was riddled with. For those who read it, it gave the illusion Iraq possessed WMD whereas Bush's expressed doubt.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    The highly redacted NIE did not contain the doubt of the existence of WMD that the full NIE was riddled with. For those who read it, it gave the illusion Iraq possessed WMD whereas Bush's expressed doubt.
    Are you speculating or do you have evidence of such?

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