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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    And yet again, there is no dispute that the current U-3 number includes fewer discouraged workes than it used to. But OVER ALL, due to other changes that reduced the undercounting of unemployed people, the current methodology results in a higher unemployment rate than the pre-94 methodology. No dodging that bullet.
    No dodging the information in the article either

    Data, beginning 1994, are not directly comparable with those for 1993 and prior years as a result of the redesign of the CPS. In addition, data comparisons are affected by the incorporation of new population controls and other methodological changes

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    There's nothing I need to answer which wasn't addressed in post #1135 regrading discouraged workers. Perhaps the problem is that this is just another topic you don't understand? Afterall, you were easily tripped up by 'CPS'. If that's the case, I'd be happy to explain it to you.
    Perhaps you are having problems reading the article, so once again:

    Data, beginning 1994, are not directly comparable with those for 1993 and prior years as a result of the redesign of the CPS. In addition, data comparisons are affected by the incorporation of new population controls and other methodological changes
    The fact that population calculation changes as well as discouraged workers no longer being counted make a difference which you want to ignore. not going to happen. Reagan had better employment and undemployment numbers than Obama 36 months into office and Reagan had a recession that began in July 1981 that ended in November 1982

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Sheik, my head is fully above ground and my eyes open, Obama's policies have been a failure and the results show it. You buy the rhetoric and ignore the substance. you have a lot invested in the hated of Bush and ignorance of the data choosing to post percentage change vs. actual numbers.
    you have a lot invested in the hatred of Obama, see, that coin has two sides.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    you have a lot invested in the hatred of Obama, see, that coin has two sides.
    How you coming on determining if the GDP for 2011 was more or less than 2010 so that you can claim an improving economy?

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Lets take a look at post 1113 and see if that is true:

    Actually, this is an example of you moving the goalposts, not Conservative. He asked for a comparison between 2010 and 2011 and you gave a comparison between 2009 and 2010. But the graph you posted backs up his point--that GDP growth in 2011 declined from 2010.
    Go back and look at the post he was responding to and get back to me. If you pay attention, then you might get a handle on why he went skippin off to Europe lookin for another place to plant his new goalpost. The graph shows whatta disaster he's been defending since he landed at DP.
    The haggardness of poverty is everywhere seen contrasted with the sleekness of wealth, the exhorted labor of some compensating for the idleness of others, wretched hovels by the side of stately colonnades, the rags of indigence blended with the ensigns of opulence; in a word, the most useless profusion in the midst of the most urgent wants.Jean-Baptiste Say

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Perhaps you are having problems reading the article, so once again:



    The fact that population calculation changes as well as discouraged workers no longer being counted make a difference which you want to ignore. not going to happen. Reagan had better employment and undemployment numbers than Obama 36 months into office and Reagan had a recession that began in July 1981 that ended in November 1982
    I like how you compare the unemployment numbers between Reagan and Obama while at the same time, quote an article stating you can't compare the unemployment numbers between Reagan and Obama.

    Not many people can even attempt such blatant levels of dishonesty, but on you, it fits like a tailor made suit.

    By the way have you learned what 'CPS' is yet?


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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I like how you compare the unemployment numbers between Reagan and Obama while at the same time, quote an article stating you can't compare the unemployment numbers between Reagan and Obama.

    Not many people can even attempt such blatant levels of dishonesty, but on you, it fits like a tailor made suit.

    By the way have you learned what 'CPS' is yet?

    I can't seem to understand you....must be your avatar.
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT on Nov 8th, 2012 View Post
    Over the next four years the economy will continue to rebound and we will gradually get deficits under control. The real esate market will rebound, unemployment will fall to 6.5% or below, and GDP growth will stand at 3.5 - 4%. We won't be in any wars. And conservatives will still be whining.

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by treedancer View Post
    Go back and look at the post he was responding to and get back to me. If you pay attention, then you might get a handle on why he went skippin off to Europe lookin for another place to plant his new goalpost. The graph shows whatta disaster he's been defending since he landed at DP.
    Your data shows that the GDP growth in 2011 was half of 2010 which makes this the worst recovery from a recession in U.S. History. Guess Bush snuck back into the WH and made economic policy last year, right? In addition 1,059,000 discouraged workers in January 2012 vs 993,000 in January 2011 doesn't indicate that things are getting better no matter the propaganda "Your" President is spewing

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Seriously Sheik you would be taken more seriously if you weren't so caustic. Read the article completely and get back to me. I asked you the question which you ran from, were discouraged workers counted during the Reagan years as unemployed or were they eliminated as they are today. Read the report for the answer
    'Seriously Sheik you would be taken more seriously if you weren't so caustic.'.... oh no, you did not!!!

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    Re: US economy creates 243,000 jobs in January

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I like how you compare the unemployment numbers between Reagan and Obama while at the same time, quote an article stating you can't compare the unemployment numbers between Reagan and Obama.

    Not many people can even attempt such blatant levels of dishonesty, but on you, it fits like a tailor made suit.

    By the way have you learned what 'CPS' is yet?

    Very simple, were discouraged workers counted as unemployed or not counted at all during the Reagan years?

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