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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    So when you go on public assistance, you lose the power to decide what you're going to eat?
    No, people don't lost the power to decide what they are going to eat. The government just has the power to tell you what you can buy with the money they give you. If I ask to eat over at a friend's house I don't tell them what they are going to serve me.

    If people want to eat a filet mignon they are free to, they just have to pay for it with their money, not the money the government gives them.

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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    Does everyone on here understand that the government does not force anyone to go on welfare? People go on welfare because they need help. And you need help be thankful for the help you get. People need to stop complaining because they want more. It is rediculous. These people are getting something for nothing and some of them are complaining because people who are earning their money have more than they do.

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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    Quote Originally Posted by Frolicking Dinosaurs View Post
    I served on a advisory board for the state's FS program for a decade:

    The most common type of FS fraud is a recipient selling their FS card for half the value to someone for cash. I have always favored requiring FS recipients to state who is authorized to use the card and having each authorized individual get a photo ID issued at the local level by FS caseworkers. Showing this ID should be mandatory to use the FS card. This would bring the practice of selling the cards to a grinding halt.

    The second most common type of fraud is a store that allows purchases of things like diapers, alcohol and tobacco with FS. In order to do this, they scan / ring up an allowed item with the same cost instead of the diapers, alcohol or tobacco. If you know of a store doing this, report them to the department that administers the food stamp program in your state. Their website will have a number for you to report fraud.

    A third type of fraud is stores buying FS card for half value and then using them to pay for items that other customers paid cash for. This means they get reimbursed for the full value. Sometime unscrupulous cashiers do this and pocket the cash.
    The biggest fraud, in terms of numbers, that I believe to be true, is the false household status.

    Where an unmarried couple with children, who make more than the EBT threshold, falsely claims the size of the household to receive benefits.
    Usually means that the woman, files as single, with children and no other household members.
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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    People abuse the privilidge and freedom given so it gets taken away.
    This is a very ironic... and contradictory... statement.

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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    The biggest fraud, in terms of numbers, that I believe to be true, is the false household status.

    Where an unmarried couple with children, who make more than the EBT threshold, falsely claims the size of the household to receive benefits.
    Usually means that the woman, files as single, with children and no other household members.
    Dont they have to prove the number of people in the household?

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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Dont they have to prove the number of people in the household?
    How would they prove someone else isn't living with them and how would the agency verify it?
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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I support this.But I think wiring housing assistance money to the land lords bank account and the bank account of utility providers would save money.And instead of giving out food stamp cards why not something similar to wic vouchers?

    House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
    The House of Representatives overwhelmingly passed a bill that prohibits welfare recipients from using their government subsidy in strip clubs, liquor stores and casinos.
    The measure easily received the necessary support of two-thirds of House members, with 395 voting in favor and only 27 opposing.
    Yeah but doing it the common sense way wouldn't secure nearly enough votes come election time..


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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    How would they prove someone else isn't living with them and how would the agency verify it?
    Stop in? Ask where the husband is? I would think if your a married woman, or even single with two kids a simple "where is the father" is pretty easy. Or swing by unexpectedly and see who is living there

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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Stop in? Ask where the husband is? I would think if your a married woman, or even single with two kids a simple "where is the father" is pretty easy. Or swing by unexpectedly and see who is living there
    They don't usually do home visits for most of the entitlement programs.

    With the 2nd, it's a couple that's not married, but lives together with children.
    Very common and it's easy to exploit the system as such.
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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    Even ignoring the nanny-state control issues that conservatives normally would be up in arms over if aimed at them, the other concern seems to be tax (read: "my") money. Ironically enough, the proposed solutions contained in this thread would actually would cause an expanded bureaucracy, and thus increased costs, to enforce.

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