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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Are you insane? The US and Iraq have not been allies for quite some time dude.

    We were Saddam's ally whey he was at his murderous worst, but Western oil companies had not yet been kicked out of Iraq, so.............


    And regardless of the history that any two countries may or may not have it doesn't change anything.
    Just facts, thats all

    Saddam needed to be removed from power.
    If we wanted to get big oil back in Iraq, which we very much did as recommended in Cheney's Energy Task Force Report.


    And if this new regime is just as bad or worse then the US government should be held to blame for pulling out and not completing what they went in their to do.
    The regime we helped set up was corrupt, how would us staying there longer change that???

    The United States has a means to stop these things from happening. People are being tortured at the hands of some of these governments. I believe freedom, not just freedom for Americans, is worth more than money.
    There are plenty of countries where people were being tortured, but none other with the worlds 2nd largest reserves of oil.

    And are you really justifying Iraq's use of mustard gas? That is sick. You need help.
    The US justified it, not me baby. But then, we were getting oil, so..............................



    But I guess you are one of those who thinks humanity ends at America's borders and the rest of the world deserves to suffer.
    I am the one that believes that property rights don't end with our borders. Sorry don't believe in killing innocent people for their property. Its just the way I was brought up.
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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    WTF are you talking about? Do you REALLY think that's how I see things? That they are "less worthy"?

    Man you got a ****ed up world view son.

    You, a person, are free to buy whatever you want, eat what you want, MORE POWER TO YOU. With your own money, that you earned.

    When you are on the tab of the TAX PAYER, essentials. Yeah, it sucks, I get that, but that's life. Governmen t isn't there to help you enjoy the nice things in life, it's there to help when you need it most. If you're buying luxury items... YOU DON'T NEED THE ****ING HELP.

    My problem is people using OTHER PEOPLES MONEY instead of their own.

    What part of that do you see as oppression?

    I absolutely do not get how you see my stance as anything about "unworthy" or oppression.
    Me, mine, green money, that has determined meaning because we deem it so.

    Why don't we just print out money for everyone, so we don't have suffering? Because The Fed just printed out 17 trillion dollars to bailout a bunch of rich people.

    All of this oppression has to do with fiat currency. Are you ****ing kidding me? Why can't we most past what is mine and worry about how the system is keeping people from living a fulfilling life?

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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    We were Saddam's ally whey he was at his murderous worst, but Western oil companies had not yet been kicked out of Iraq, so.............
    Exactly. So....... So it doesnt justify ignoring anything.

    The regime we helped set up was corrupt, how would us staying there longer change that???
    you'd rather abandon those people to a terrible fate at the hands of terrorist to save money? That is a cold and heartless view. Money is more not important than lives. Prioritize. What have those people done to deserve that? How can you be that selfish that you'd prefer to see millions suffer to save some money? That is a very sick and twisted mindset. I cannot understand people like you who want to see the world suffer as long as its not in your back yard. Iraqis are people too.

    There are plenty of countries where people were being tortured, but none other with the worlds 2nd largest reserves of oil.
    The only one i see focusing on oil is you. The US did not seem to benefit from the oil there. Our war caused gas prices to rise. They made tons of profits for oil companies in other countries. If anything it hurt the United States. Just because a country has oil we should ingore the humanitarian issues and let them all just die at the hands of a dictator.

    I am the one that believes that property rights don't end with our borders. Sorry don't believe in killing innocent people for their property. Its just the way I was brought up.
    What does that have to do with anything? You think the US was now trying to steal property in Iraq? Make it part of our country?

    I am not going to continue this conversation with you. Your greed is disgusting.

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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Your greed is disgusting.
    The rich now get 65 cents out of every dollar of income in this country, and it is the 99% that is greedy. Got it!

    Best of luck to the 1% in the upcoming election!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The rich now get 65 cents out of every dollar of income in this country, and it is the 99% that is greedy.
    The 99% constantly buy whatever the 1% are selling.

    Maybe they should stop whining and think about boycotting.

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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    The 99% constantly buy whatever the 1% are selling.

    Maybe they should stop whining and think about boycotting.
    The 99% have buying less, not voluntarily however, just because the 1% own most of the wealth. 6 members of the Walton family now own more wealth than 93 million Americans combined!
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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    The rich now get 65 cents out of every dollar of income in this country, and it is the 99% that is greedy. Got it!
    Yea that is relavent to our discussion about you wanting the american government to save money by allowing millions of people to live in torment. Do you just spew forth slogans you see on signs?

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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We were Saddam's ally whey he was at his murderous worst, but Western oil companies had not yet been kicked out of Iraq, so.............

    blah, blah, blah..............
    The only problem with your little rant is that American oil companies have gotten almost no Iraqi oil contracts. Kinda blows a hole in your entire argument.

    Hmmm, wonder why the evil G. Bush and Cheney didn't "order" the Iraqis to give American oil companies sweetheart deals??? Perhaps because your little theory is full of s**t.

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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    I'm all for steering - even forcing - people in the right direction when it comes to nutrition but the cards are a more efficient use of our money instead of increasing implementation costs in an attempt to control 100% of it. You will never achieve that kind of control. What's to stop people from buying milk*, an allowed item on almost anyone's list, then simply selling it later? And would it make any difference if that gallon of milk was handed to them by a government employee? Abuses will occur, deal with it.
    (Fill in your favorite food item here, it doesn't matter what it is or how it's packaged.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Great move by the House of Representatives. Now they just need to change the food stamps program so you show up and pick up bags of groceries rather than being given carte blanche to purchase whatever you want. "Ok Mrs. Smith, you've got a family of four so here's your food allotment for the week, and since your son is lactose intolerant, we've replaced the appropriate items. See you next Thursday."
    That system was thrown out because it cost too much money to maintain. It's cheaper to issue cards than pay people to sack and hand out groceries at special facilities. Controlling mechanisms costs money and the finer the control the more it costs. At some point increasing control over a system reduces overall output and efficiency.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    The American Spirit dies in a person the moment they start taking money from the Government to begin with, so that's a moot point in this discussion.
    That's bull. Their spirit starts dying long before they resign themselves to public assistance. Having to beg the government or anyone else for support is just one more slick spot on the downhill slide, it's not the beginning nor the end.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I'd favor that over the current 'buy cigs and energy drinks - nevermind the food' - my solution to this issue is to have stores that offer goods which are all pre-approved and foodstamps would be in-store credit at these stores only.

    I see more people buying that than apples and oranges. . . hence why congress and state governments have woken up and realized what's going on.

    People abuse the privilidge and freedom given so it gets taken away.
    I think eventually computer technology will be useful here. Stores already use cash registers as a kind of first step inventory tracking. If programming were focused that direction it shouldn't take much to lock out certain items from special cards. I don't think we're quite there yet but if the government were to "suggest" this kind of system then some beta testing could start on newer inventory programs and maybe even on updates of some existing ones. It wouldn't be perfect but it would be a good teaching mechanism.

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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The 99% have buying less, not voluntarily however, just because the 1% own most of the wealth.
    So... like I said. Maybe they should stop whining and think about boycotting.

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