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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    We cannot afford SS and Medicare. Hate to break it to you son, but those programs eat up roughly 35-40% of the CURRENT budget that we have to borrow trillions to pay for. Add in welfare, foodstamps, and Medicaide and guess what? You breach 60% of the budget just on social programs ALONE

    Think about that for a moment. +60% of the budget is taking money from one group of people, and giving to others. But to do this, we have borrowed over 17 TRILLION Dollars. You can blather about military spending and wars till you turn blue in the face, the numbers however are not on your side as to the cause of our debt. Neither is the idiotic line of "The rich need to pay their fair share!"

    ALL Social Programs have become voter bribes, and we cannot afford them any more. But go on, keep pushing for them, spend more! Borrow more, economic calamity is that way, and you seem eager for it.
    You don't know what the **** you are talking about! SS hasn't added one dime to our debt! But please do continue railing against seniors, the only demographic (besides the Bubba vote) that the GOP carried in the last presidential election!
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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    We cannot afford SS and Medicare. Hate to break it to you son, but those programs eat up roughly 35-40% of the CURRENT budget that we have to borrow trillions to pay for. Add in welfare, foodstamps, and Medicaide and guess what? You breach 60% of the budget just on social programs ALONE

    Think about that for a moment. +60% of the budget is taking money from one group of people, and giving to others. But to do this, we have borrowed over 17 TRILLION Dollars. You can blather about military spending and wars till you turn blue in the face, the numbers however are not on your side as to the cause of our debt. Neither is the idiotic line of "The rich need to pay their fair share!"

    ALL Social Programs have become voter bribes, and we cannot afford them any more. But go on, keep pushing for them, spend more! Borrow more, economic calamity is that way, and you seem eager for it.
    If you're going to make up numbers, use a little more imagination! Make it +600%!

    How many years does it take to borrowing $17 trillion for a $21.9 billion welfare program? I've posted links on the costs of these programs, so why aren't you using the true data to make your case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You don't know what the **** you are talking about! SS hasn't added one dime to our debt!
    Of course it has. The US Gov. has to borrow to keep sending out SS checks, the trust fund is full of IOUs, and SS taxes go into the general fund. Just because we gave it its own tax doesn't mean it hasn't contributed to the debt in its own way like every other expenditure has.

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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You don't know what the **** you are talking about! SS hasn't added one dime to our debt! But please do continue railing against seniors, the only demographic (besides the Bubba vote) that the GOP carried in the last presidential election!
    This is more dreaming on your part. SS is all ready in the red. (I.E. it's paying out more then it's taking in) It's also what economist, call an unfunded liability... yeah, we have over 100,000,000,000,000.00 in unfunded liabilities coming due oh, in the next 30 years or so. Toss in Obamacare and well...
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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    If you're going to make up numbers, use a little more imagination! Make it +600%!

    How many years does it take to borrowing $17 trillion for a $21.9 billion welfare program? I've posted links on the costs of these programs, so why aren't you using the true data to make your case?
    I'm not making up number Gary. I actually bother to know what the heck I'm talking about.

    FY2010SpendingByCategoryLARGE.jpg

    Now, these numbers are from the US Government. The one making up numbers son, is you.
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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I'm not making up number Gary. I actually bother to know what the heck I'm talking about.

    FY2010SpendingByCategoryLARGE.jpg

    Now, these numbers are from the US Government. The one making up numbers son, is you.
    The one making up numbers son, is you.
    Don't call me son!

    So you know what the heck you're talking about. Then, prove this:

    Originally Posted by MrVicchio
    We cannot afford SS and Medicare. Hate to break it to you son, but those programs eat up roughly 35-40% of the CURRENT budget that we have to borrow trillions to pay for. Add in welfare, foodstamps, and Medicaide and guess what? You breach 60% of the budget just on social programs ALONE

    Think about that for a moment. +60% of the budget is taking money from one group of people, and giving to others. But to do this, we have borrowed over 17 TRILLION Dollars. You can blather about military spending and wars till you turn blue in the face, the numbers however are not on your side as to the cause of our debt. Neither is the idiotic line of "The rich need to pay their fair share!"

    ALL Social Programs have become voter bribes, and we cannot afford them any more. But go on, keep pushing for them, spend more! Borrow more, economic calamity is that way, and you seem eager for it.
    Originally Posted by MrVicchio
    This is more dreaming on your part. SS is all ready in the red. (I.E. it's paying out more then it's taking in) It's also what economist, call an unfunded liability... yeah, we have over 100,000,000,000,000.00 in unfunded liabilities coming due oh, in the next 30 years or so. Toss in Obamacare and well...
    The Off-Budget items of Social security and Medicare had a surplus of $240,612,000,000 in 2011. Check Table 1.1!

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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    Don't call me son!

    So you know what the heck you're talking about. Then, prove this:





    The Off-Budget items of Social security and Medicare had a surplus of $240,612,000,000 in 2011. Check Table 1.1!
    Boggle.

    Your inability to accept reality boggles the mind.
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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Boggle.

    Your inability to accept reality boggles the mind.
    Then, explain it and your rhetoric doesn't explain anything but defeat!

    I posted Authenticated U.S Government Information GPO (go to the first page and see the seal) and you posted a wiki chart showing nothing about what was on or off budget. Off-Budget are payroll taxes for Medicare and Social Security. Now, why is there a surplus of $240,612,000,000 in 2011? That is the estimated amount of money borrowed from the Trust fund, so those Off-Budget items can't have money borrowed to pay for them. They are borrowing the money from them to pay for the other government expenses.

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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    Then, explain it and your rhetoric doesn't explain anything but defeat!

    I posted Authenticated U.S Government Information GPO (go to the first page and see the seal) and you posted a wiki chart showing nothing about what was on or off budget. Off-Budget are payroll taxes for Medicare and Social Security. Now, why is there a surplus of $240,612,000,000 in 2011? That is the estimated amount of money borrowed from the Trust fund, so those Off-Budget items can't have money borrowed to pay for them. They are borrowing the money from them to pay for the other government expenses.
    Therre is no surplus, that's a budgetary shell game. If there a "surplus" we wouldn't have to borrow trillions.

    You do get that right? We BORROWED over a trillion Dollars last year. The surplus, is just an accounting trick.
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    Re: House bans welfare recipients' money from strip clubs, liquor stores

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Therre is no surplus, that's a budgetary shell game. If there a "surplus" we wouldn't have to borrow trillions.

    You do get that right? We BORROWED over a trillion Dollars last year. The surplus, is just an accounting trick.
    Bull****!

    Originally Posted by MrVicchio
    This is more dreaming on your part. SS is all ready in the red. (I.E. it's paying out more then it's taking in) It's also what economist, call an unfunded liability... yeah, we have over 100,000,000,000,000.00 in unfunded liabilities coming due oh, in the next 30 years or so. Toss in Obamacare and well...
    SS is all ready in the red.
    False! It's been proven false with authenticated government information and not hot air!
    Last edited by Gary; 02-06-12 at 09:24 PM.

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