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Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the operation

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j-mac said:
No, it was a blunder that was being used to further an agenda within the WH concerning the 2nd amendment, and it backfired, now there is a cover up, and you defend this crap...


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Well please by all mean show us this slam-dunk proof you have of a cover up? Or should I just get my waders on for the BS you're going to spew out.
 
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apdst said:
People who want to defend their constitutional rights are nuts?
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Yep. Death cult zealots martyring an overrated right.

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dirtpoorchris said:
Yep. Death cult zealots martyring an overrated right.

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The right to keep and arm bears? :rofl
 
Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

If Holder is so called guilty, then go through procedings and if enough evidence go to a trial.

What I find so double-standard is there are billions that are unaccounted for in Iraq during the Bush administation that could very well be funding Al-Qaeda and don't here a peep anymore from conservatives about that anymore.

Conservatives: Ooops we lost billions that could be funding terrorism, OH WELL.
 
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TheNextEra said:
If Holder is so called guilty, then go through procedings and if enough evidence go to a trial.

What I find so double-standard is there are billions that are unaccounted for in Iraq during the Bush administation that could very well be funding Al-Qaeda and don't here a peep anymore from conservatives about that anymore.

Conservatives: Ooops we lost billions that could be funding terrorism, OH WELL.
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Nice deflection! :lamo

BTW, do you have any evidence that Bush stole that money?
 
Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

TheNextEra said:
If Holder is so called guilty, then go through procedings and if enough evidence go to a trial.

What I find so double-standard is there are billions that are unaccounted for in Iraq during the Bush administation that could very well be funding Al-Qaeda and don't here a peep anymore from conservatives about that anymore.

Conservatives: Ooops we lost billions that could be funding terrorism, OH WELL.
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Stay on topic or make your own thread.

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Then we have the way Holder replied to Paul Labrador:“maybe this is the way you do things in Idaho or wherever you are from.”
Small problem for Holder, Labrador is from Puerto Rico, represents a district in Idaho and was a managing partner in a law firm.

Holder needs to go. The cover up is saying more than the actions themselves.
 
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apdst said:
Nice deflection! :lamo

BTW, do you have any evidence that Bush stole that money?
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Dont touch the bait APDST. :roll:
 
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AdamT said:
The only people who are ignoring it is the folks who don't have an insane, irrational, paranoid fear that the gubmint is coming for their guns.
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So anyone who owns a gun is insane and has an irrational fear. Got it!
 
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I personally don't think this is about gun control. I think it is far more sinister. I think this is a case of the American and Mexican government scratching eachothers back. "You do my dirty work for me and ill do yours." Notice after all this ATF has been given more responsability and is/has opened a headquarters IN MEXICO. This may be a case of government and government colluding against people and needs to be fully exposed just to be sure.

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American said:
So anyone who owns a gun is insane and has an irrational fear. Got it!
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Not at all. Anyone who owns a gun AND who thinks that the government is constantly plotting to take his gun away is insane.
 
Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

AdamT said:
I assure you that the only people laughing, or paying the slightest bit of attention to this issue, are hardcore conservatives. No one else gives a **** about it.
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So in other words are you saying you and people like you don't care about Holder's incompentence and possible cover up that resulted in a border agent's death and his grieving family?
 
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dirtpoorchris said:
I personally don't think this is about gun control. I think it is far more sinister. I think this is a case of the American and Mexican government scratching eachothers back. "You do my dirty work for me and ill do yours." Notice after all this ATF has been given more responsability and is/has opened a headquarters IN MEXICO. This may be a case of government and government colluding against people and needs to be fully exposed just to be sure.

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Trying to keep illegal guns out of the hands of murderous Mexican drug cartels is sinister? Wow.
 
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AdamT said:
I assure you that the only people laughing, or paying the slightest bit of attention to this issue, are hardcore conservatives. No one else gives a **** about it.
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It's just like Solyndra. No one but wingnuts cared about it, and even they forgot about it once they heard about FnF. It won't be long before some new imagined misdeed captures their ADD-addled brains and FnF will be forgotten
 
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apdst said:
Nice deflection! :lamo

BTW, do you have any evidence that Bush stole that money?
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Nice deflection!

When did I say Bush stole the money?
 
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OpportunityCost said:
Stay on topic or make your own thread.
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Or what will you do big man? Take your demands and go pound sand.

It's funny that people cannot and will not hold the government accountable when their side does something wrong. Conservatives cronies gave Bush a free ride when Billions were lost in Iraq (possibly being used by terrorists now) and then complain about this? Pathetic.
 
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sangha said:
It's just like Solyndra. No one but wingnuts cared about it, and even they forgot about it once they heard about FnF. It won't be long before some new imagined misdeed captures their ADD-addled brains and FnF will be forgotten
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The DOJ authorized the ATF to give guns to the Mexican drug runners. That's not imagined; that's a fact.
 
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TheNextEra said:
Or what will you do big man? Take your demands and go pound sand.

It's funny that people cannot and will not hold the government accountable when their side does something wrong. Conservatives cronies gave Bush a free ride when Billions were lost in Iraq (possibly being used by terrorists now) and then complain about this? Pathetic.
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Even funnier is when Obama's diciples never fail to use the, "but...but...but...Bush did it!", defense whenever they try to defend Obama.
 
Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

TheNextEra said:
Or what will you do big man? Take your demands and go pound sand.

It's funny that people cannot and will not hold the government accountable when their side does something wrong. Conservatives cronies gave Bush a free ride when Billions were lost in Iraq (possibly being used by terrorists now) and then complain about this? Pathetic.
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Derailing IS against the forum guidelines. This is about Holder and Fast and Furious. Comment on that, the BDS is transparent as hell.
 
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AdamT said:
Trying to keep illegal guns out of the hands of murderous Mexican drug cartels is sinister? Wow.
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And, they were going to accomplish that by giving them more guns? :lamo
 
Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

apdst said:
Even funnier is when Obama's diciples never fail to use the, "but...but...but...Bush did it!", defense whenever they try to defend Obama.
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Bush worshippers forget what he did but then Cry look look what Obama is doing!!!. BConservative blinders are on when an R is in front of the President's name.

Fact is if you think what holder did is illegal, take him to court if you think you have the evidence. Should be easy right?
 
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OpportunityCost said:
Derailing IS against the forum guidelines. This is about Holder and Fast and Furious. Comment on that, the BDS is transparent as hell.
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YOU don't get to decide what is or what is off topic. I have commented on that in regards to how conservatives have blinders on when a Republican president is in office.
 
Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

TheNextEra said:
YOU don't get to decide what is or what is off topic. I have commented on that in regards to how conservatives have blinders on when a Republican president is in office.
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Dont play stupid, the OP IS the topic. This thread is not about Bush. Your attempts to derail are transparent. Have you got anything to say about the DOJ and ATF allowing illegal gun trafficking, even sanctioning it and then not being truthful with government oversight of what they have done?
 
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AdamT said:
Trying to keep illegal guns out of the hands of murderous Mexican drug cartels is sinister? Wow.
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Keeping guns out of there hands would be noble. Your point is moot.... They GAVE them weapons. At least enough weapons to furnish a small psuedo army. This is all that needs to be taken into consideration. They didnt sting it so that they recouped the weapons without a chance of failure. They just let weapons trickle into mafia/private armies hands and then threw their hands up in there air. "Jobs done". Actions will always speak louder than excuses. Unless you are biased.
 
Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

AdamT said:
Not at all. Anyone who owns a gun AND who thinks that the government is constantly plotting to take his gun away is insane.
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I'm glad you finally made up your mind.
 
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