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    Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Huh? I have no idea what you're talking about. One, it was not illegal. Two, it did not compromise domestic security. Three, the good intention was to try to shut down the flow of illegal arms to Mexican drug cartels that, of course, ultimately peddle their drugs in the United States.
    Coercing FFL dealers to look the other way so criminals can make straw purchases is definitely illegal. Allowing criminals to cross the US border with firearms is also illegal.

    So allowing criminals to walk across the border with illegally purchased firearms where the US has no jurisdiction constitutes the good intention of trying to shut down the flow of illegal arms and in turn drug dealers?

    This executed plan of incompetence exudes criminal activity.

    The lack of perceptive thought from liberals about this issue never ceases to amaze me.

    I guess Holder's road to Hell is paved with good intention, eh?
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    The Second Amendment has nothing to do with guns.

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    Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Coercing FFL dealers to look the other way so criminals can make straw purchases is definitely illegal. Allowing criminals to cross the US border with firearms is also illegal.

    So allowing criminals to walk across the border with illegally purchased firearms where the US has no jurisdiction constitutes the good intention of trying to shut down the flow of illegal arms and in turn drug dealers?

    This executed plan of incompetence exudes criminal activity.

    The lack of perceptive thought from liberals about this issue never ceases to amaze me.

    I guess Holder's road to Hell is paved with good intention, eh?

    This is getting a little repetitive, but in fact law enforcement can, and often does, violate the law in sting and under cover operations. No argument that the whole thing was poorly executed.

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    Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

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    I'd hate to see how you'd fight teenage pregnancy.
    LOL. You are a funny man. For some reason my mind brings me to the scene in braveheart where the king says, "If we cant get them out... We'll breed..... them out."

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    Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Does anyone seriously not just bust out in laughter when this clown testifies? I mean really now....


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    Obama better be careful, as Nixon learned it's the cover up that brings you down.

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    Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Obama better be careful, as Nixon learned it's the cover up that brings you down.

    Didn't seem to hurt Reagan or Bush Jr.

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    Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    This is getting a little repetitive, but in fact law enforcement can, and often does, violate the law in sting and under cover operations. No argument that the whole thing was poorly executed.
    Repetitive? Firearms crossing an international border from USA gun shops, coerced by the Justice Department? I don't think so. Try again.
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    Generalizations are stupid.
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    The Second Amendment has nothing to do with guns.

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    Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Does anyone seriously not just bust out in laughter when this clown testifies? I mean really now....
    I assure you that the only people laughing, or paying the slightest bit of attention to this issue, are hardcore conservatives. No one else gives a **** about it.
    I laugh at the partisan desperation of the right wingnuts (such as Congressman Issa (R-CA) that push issues like this, as well as at their hamhanded incompetent tactics.

    His supporters rate a chuckle as well

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    Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, it was a blunder that was being used to further an agenda within the WH concerning the 2nd amendment [...]
    Whoa now... Conspiracy Forum is two flights down

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    Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Funny, the only people that want to disarm the entire American population, are the same that are ignoring this.
    Follow j-mac down the stairs; you'll wind up the right place too

    But I do like the Orwellian thrust of your logic -- since people are 'ignoring' the story means that the story is 'true'. Nice

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    Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

    Quote Originally Posted by mtlhdtodd View Post
    Hell they went after Gonzalez just for firing some attorneys.
    Firing an attorney that refuses to investigate an innocent person is not a good thing in most peoples' book.

    What book do you use? One written by the Gestapo?

    The dismissal of U.S. Attorneys controversy was initiated by the unprecedented[1] midterm dismissal of seven United States Attorneys on December 7, 2006 by the George W. Bush administration's Department of Justice. Congressional investigations focused on whether the Department of Justice and the White House were using the U.S. Attorney positions for political advantage. Allegations were that some of the attorneys were targeted for dismissal to impede investigations of Republican politicians or that some were targeted for their failure to initiate investigations that would damage Democratic politicians or hamper Democratic-leaning voters.[2][3] The U.S. attorneys were replaced with interim appointees, under provisions in the 2005 USA PATRIOT Act reauthorization.[4][5][6][7][8]

    [...] By mid-September 2007, nine of the highest-level officers of the Department of Justice associated with the controversy had resigned,[16][17][18][19] most prominently, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.[20][21][22][23]

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