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    Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky, replying to Karl View Post
    What are you blind or illiterate ? Right on the 2nd sentence of the memo states about the trafficking of firearms.
    Blind? No. Illiterate? Would I be typing this? Alas, it appears my fault is that I am too smart for your argument. I'd like to help you out, but I don't think I'm going to undergo a frontal lobotomy in order to attain the intellectual level of what you have presented so far. Let's review:

    You claimed, in post #102: "Based on the July 5, 2010, memo to Eric Holder, it would appear that Fast and Furious facilitated the delivery of weapons to at a minimum the Sinaloa cartel in Mexico." (that is an exact quote, highlighting aside)

    I proved, in post #106 (by citing the memo itself), that the memo said absolutely nothing about "Fast and Furious" facilitating the delivery of any weapons.

    You reply above, somewhat hysterically IMHO, that the memo talks about the trafficking of firearms. Indeed it does; it talks about a trafficking ring run by what I presume is some Mexican bad guy. However, it certainly does not talk about the "Fast and Furious" operation itself trafficking in any firearms (even though that is kinda-sorta what happened, considering the gunwalking).

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky, replying to Karl View Post
    And as head of DOJ it's Holder's job to know exactly what Fast & Furious is about prior, during and after.
    Again, I can't go the lobotomy route (even though the current GOP might need the vote), so the moronic nature of that claim speaks for itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky, replying to Karl View Post
    There's no way you can be that dense from being blinded by your partisan. If that's the case, then I am utterly convinced that Liberalism is a mental disorder.
    I would not rule out the possibility of mental illness in this exchange.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky, replying to Karl View Post
    Being an independent, I read and research from BOTH sides of the media and Eric Holder's hands are filthy dirty.
    Being an independent as well, I would try very hard to not quote a source such as Pajamas Media (as you did)... for what should now be obvious reasons (they failed you badly).

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    Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

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    But I do like the Orwellian thrust of your logic -- since people are 'ignoring' the story means that the story is 'true'. Nice
    Correction: It's "wingnut" logic
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    Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

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    Correction: It's "wingnut" logic

    Why don't you stop name calling, and trolling, or GTFO.


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    Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why don't you stop name calling, and trolling, or GTFO.


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    That interesting considering all the "liberal jabs" you throw on a daily basis. Pot calling the kettle black again.

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    Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why don't you stop name calling, and trolling, or GTFO.


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    Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post


    Being an independent as well, I would try very hard to not quote a source such as Pajamas Media (as you did)... for what should now be obvious reasons (they failed you badly).
    Pajama media???? What the hell are you talking about? The source came from CBS news. That is a mainstream media outlet.

    And no, you're posts do NOT reflect the views of an independent. You are as far left as they come.

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    Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

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    Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    That interesting considering all the "liberal jabs" you throw on a daily basis. Pot calling the kettle black again.

    Yeah, sometimes I get carried away, like that quote. I should have left it alone. But I don't think I am as abbrasive as that on a regular basis. If I am at times I don't mean to be, but I am human, and I do have bad days....These types of things from certain posters are on a daily, thread to thread basis, and it does nothing to further the conversation. I will work on my shortcomings, and only say that in heated moments, if I offend, I apologize.


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    Re: Holder: No cover-up in 'Fast and Furious,' no effort to hide details of the opera

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky, in post #116 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Karl, in post #111, replying to Sparky View Post
    [...] Being an independent as well, I would try very hard to not quote a source such as Pajamas Media (as you did)... for what should now be obvious reasons (they failed you badly).
    Pajama media???? What the hell are you talking about? The source came from CBS news. That is a mainstream media outlet. [...]
    I'm talking about this unsourced quote that you posted:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky, in post #102 View Post
    Based on the July 5, 2010, memo to Eric Holder, it would appear that Fast and Furious facilitated the delivery of weapons to — at a minimum — the Sinaloa cartel in Mexico.
    So what happened Karl, did Holder forget to read the memo?
    Which you lifted from this previous post:

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost, post #101, replying to another View Post
    Um the information is lifted from here: PJ Media Gunwalker: Justice Dept. Violated U.S. Laws Beyond Those Being Investigated

    Look at their front page and the columnists there, some big voices for conservativism on the net.
    Which links to Pajamas Media, a right wing blog which is the source of the now-debunked quote that you posted... not CBS News:

    [paragraph 4, lead sentence] Based on the July 5, 2010, memo to Eric Holder, it would appear that Fast and Furious facilitated the delivery of weapons to — at a minimum — the Sinaloa cartel in Mexico. [...]

    PJ Media Gunwalker: Justice Dept. Violated U.S. Laws Beyond Those Being Investigated
    Last edited by Karl; 02-09-12 at 08:26 PM.

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