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    Re: Family: Boy, 15, shot to death after attacking police had autism disorder

    I'm not going to condemn the cop, but it seems to me that they could have done more to take the kid down without shooting him. You've got five cops there, right? How about one guy tazes the kid while the other four keep their weapons trained on him? Just sayin'.

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    Re: Family: Boy, 15, shot to death after attacking police had autism disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I'm not going to condemn the cop, but it seems to me that they could have done more to take the kid down without shooting him. You've got five cops there, right? How about one guy tazes the kid while the other four keep their weapons trained on him? Just sayin'.
    And then what?

    Throw him in juvey - and then what?

    Keep him there?

    Then what?

    What was missing was understanding and REAL intervention and maybe some theraputic help - a lack of this is what led to these situations happening - and happening again - and happening again: no one had any other answers to the problems and instead only responded when things escallated out of control.
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    Re: Family: Boy, 15, shot to death after attacking police had autism disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    And then what?

    Throw him in juvey - and then what?

    Keep him there?

    Then what?

    What was missing was understanding and REAL intervention and maybe some theraputic help - a lack of this is what led to these situations happening - and happening again - and happening again: no one had any other answers to the problems and instead only responded when things escallated out of control.
    Yes, then it would have been a good idea to get him and the family some therapy and/or counseling. Not really an option now ... except maybe grief counseling.

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    Re: Family: Boy, 15, shot to death after attacking police had autism disorder

    First, officers have an absolute right to meet deadly force with deadly force so I cannot fault them for shooting when an officer had been injured and the young man was still advancing.

    Who's fault is it? I'm with Aunt Spiker. This young man had clearly demonstrated the need to be in a more protective environment - one where there was no chance of him getting a knife to use as a weapon and where he could be kept from hurting others. There are a variety of possible reasons why the young man was not in such an environment - none available, he did not qualify due to insurance requirements or parents couldn't bear to put in an institutional setting. Had he been in such an environment, he would still be alive.

    Very sad news item. My prayers for the family and the officers.

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    Re: Family: Boy, 15, shot to death after attacking police had autism disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I don't blame the cops on this one.

    It sounds to me like the kid should have been institutionalized or somethin'.

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    Re: Family: Boy, 15, shot to death after attacking police had autism disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    How is it that police in other countries are able to subdue violent individuals without killing them, yet USA police can't do it?

    There is a serious flaw in police training when someone with a knife dies while facing off with several police who are armed with batons, tasers, and guns.

    There is always a choice in whether or not you kill someone. ALWAYS. Whether you are a trained officer who is allowed to use legal force, or a civilian about to commit murder. Always always always there is a choice.

    This poor boy should not have died. There is no excuse. This is a travesty.
    I teach people that if someone has a knife and they are within 20 feet of you and your gun is not aimed at them get away as fast as possible and put stuff like chairs or tables between you and them and then shoot them as many times as it takes

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    Re: Family: Boy, 15, shot to death after attacking police had autism disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I'm not going to condemn the cop, but it seems to me that they could have done more to take the kid down without shooting him. You've got five cops there, right? How about one guy tazes the kid while the other four keep their weapons trained on him? Just sayin'.
    You have been in a lot of knife fights?


    Didn't think so

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    Re: Family: Boy, 15, shot to death after attacking police had autism disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    You have been in a lot of knife fights?


    Didn't think so
    Exactly as many as you.

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    Re: Family: Boy, 15, shot to death after attacking police had autism disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Exactly as many as you.
    wow, two knife fights? I think you are lying. the first guy didnt figure on me hitting him in the face with a stream of CS while I was yanking out a Gerber MK II, didn't need to cut him-just snap kicked him in the jaw and threw his switchblade down a storm sewer and waited for the cops to show up

    second guy figured a 6 inch switchblade was more than a match against some skinny white dude with a 2 foot piece of rattan. bad move. I was already nationally ranked in a racquet sport and hitting a skull was a lot easier than a ball going 100 miles an hour. I guess the guy made it to the ER where the constabulary was waiting for him.

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