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    Re: Family: Boy, 15, shot to death after attacking police had autism disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    don't bring a knife to a gunfight unless you are better trained than the gunfighters and you create a fight that is advantageous to your weapon
    I was thinking of other kinds of lessons we might learn about dealing with problem children.

    Bring the knife to the gunfight. Bring a gun (or two or three) as well.

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    Re: Family: Boy, 15, shot to death after attacking police had autism disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I was thinking of other kinds of lessons we might learn about dealing with problem children.

    Bring the knife to the gunfight. Bring a gun (or two or three) as well.
    its a parent's duty and obligation to make sure the parent's offspring does not become a problem child

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    Re: Family: Boy, 15, shot to death after attacking police had autism disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    its a parent's duty and obligation to make sure the parent's offspring does not become a problem child
    Maybe so. Still we have to deal with the world as it is. Taking a life, even when justified leaves its bruises and scars. There will always be very difficult situations. Rehearsal is one way to develop the right responses.

    So what might be learned?

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    Re: Family: Boy, 15, shot to death after attacking police had autism disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Maybe so. Still we have to deal with the world as it is. Taking a life, even when justified leaves its bruises and scars. There will always be very difficult situations. Rehearsal is one way to develop the right responses.

    So what might be learned?
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    Re: Family: Boy, 15, shot to death after attacking police had autism disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
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    LOL. We can shot to kill reasonably well. Most people prefer not to.

    Me? I prefer nuclear weapons if I have to use them.

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    Re: Family: Boy, 15, shot to death after attacking police had autism disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    LOL. We can shot to kill reasonably well. Most people prefer not to.

    Me? I prefer nuclear weapons if I have to use them.
    Yeah use a nuke to defend your house from a robbery

    what house?

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    Re: Family: Boy, 15, shot to death after attacking police had autism disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I was threatened once. I didn't like it. All I had was hands and feet. I was lucky. I lived.
    My point was, and is, DON'T GET INTO KNIFE FIGHTS. The only knife fight, you will want to get into is one where, you are the only one with a knife. If not, you run and use a barricade and keep on running


    To think there is NO POSSIBILITY or the opposite a CERTAINTY of escaping unscathed is stupid.

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    Re: Family: Boy, 15, shot to death after attacking police had autism disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It's called shyness, and is just an excuse to put kids on brain pills.
    Wrong. Absolutely wrong. There is a LOT more to Aspergers than just being shy or socially awkward. BIG difference. Someone who is shy is generally uncomfortable in new social situations... but can manage them in an appropriate fashion. Someone with Asperger's will handle those new social situations... and often FAMILIAR social situations in inappropriate ways. They have difficulty picking up non-verbal cues and don't understand the nuances of vocal inflection or implying. They will overfocus on one or a few specific topics, often ignoring the normal morphing of a conversation from one issue to another. The restrictive interests along with repetitive behaviors are key. They tend to be self-centered in their conversations. ANY slight is taken personally and they will then condemn the person as "bad".

    "Shyness" is not a synonym for Aspergers AT ALL. As far as medication, as far as I know, there is no medication that treats Aspergers, though medication can be used when there is a co-morbid disorder such as anxiety or depression.
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    Re: Family: Boy, 15, shot to death after attacking police had autism disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    This is a tragedy. Who's at fault here? Anyone?
    The itching fingered cops, I mean really they all use the "less than lethal" tasers along with pepper spray on everyone else. I have spoke of cops using their firearms for years and always have felt that once they fire their weapon in the line of duty it would end their career in law enforcement as a safety net.

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    Re: Family: Boy, 15, shot to death after attacking police had autism disorder

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Yes this is a tragedy. And if ultimately some blame must be placed I would put it on the mother (and father if he is even in the picture). This kid has obviously been violent before and should have been sent somewhere so that he never had access to any potential weapon and where he could be with someone that could control him if he ever got out of hand. The fact that it shows that the mother couldn't handle her son's problems (as evidenced by the multiple calls for police intervention) lends weight to this fact. It was her duty to make sure that her son was properly cared for and to make sure that he could hurt no one, including himself.

    I know many would prolly disagree with me believeing that we shouldn't place blame on a victim, but sometimes victims DO bring things upon themselves.

    Edit note: I wouldn't place any of the blame on the cops for sure. Thier life was obviously in danger and everyone, regardless if they are a cop or not, has a right to meet deadly force with deadly force.
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