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    Re: Ranger zaps off-leash dog walker with shock weapon

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    Right...because tazering people is what the Nazis are known for........:
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    Re: Ranger zaps off-leash dog walker with shock weapon

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    Man.. I wish this site had an "unlike" button. You are overplaying The Fool card. Makes you look bad when you are willing to bend your neck that far just to see what you want to view.
    Because asking someone who is breaking the law to identify themselves and not leave the scene is the same as what the Nazis did
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    Re: Ranger zaps off-leash dog walker with shock weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    She had his name. The dogs ended up leashed. All she had to do was follow him to his car and get the license plate n BOOM ticket confirmed. Instead he ended up on the ground (no longer walking away) saying, "Please dont taze me. I have a bad heart." when she lit him up. (according to an eye witness).
    Follow him to the car, where he may or may not have a weapon concealed. Not light him up because he may have a heart condition. You really have no clue on self-defense, do you? As the Golden Rule should read: Do unto others BEFORE they do unto you.

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    Id say a person groveling on their back and begging verbaly = compliance and she tazed him anyways. Unless the guy was comming at her getting ready to attack and the witness is phony included in some consipiracy.... She tazed him because she was angry and didnt like his attitude. Thats not what tazers are for. I hope this guy becomes a few hundred dollars richer because of this.
    Good for her. You're right that's not what tazers are for. That's what the steel baton is for. Make a REAL impression for a couple months until his leg gets out of the cast from that shattered kneecap.

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    Re: Ranger zaps off-leash dog walker with shock weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Follow him to the car, where he may or may not have a weapon concealed. Not light him up because he may have a heart condition. You really have no clue on self-defense, do you? As the Golden Rule should read: Do unto others BEFORE they do unto you.



    Good for her. You're right that's not what tazers are for. That's what the steel baton is for. Make a REAL impression for a couple months until his leg gets out of the cast from that shattered kneecap.



    1864/1872. So far as I'm concerned the very latest date one could consider "The Good Olde Days" would be the day BEFORE the election of Abraham Lincoln in 1860.
    Right... Someone on their back and pleading = baton beating... You all are just trolling now. You are making it too obvious.

    The dude releashed his dogs. All she had to do was awnser his question on as to if she was going to cite him or not. You dont just hold people there and hope they do something further incriminating so that you can ramp up your use of force.

    The guy was no longer walking away when she tazed him. Case closed.

    "self defense" arguement??? Wooooow. Thats a retarded route to take. The only reason why i brought up "follow him to his car" was for further identification to back up the name he gave her. But to inject "He could have shot her with a gun" over a leash dispute is just petty. Especially seeing as the guy never once showed signs of agression. She did not taze him in self defense. She did it for compliance. This has already been established buddy.
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    Re: Ranger zaps off-leash dog walker with shock weapon

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    Right... Someone on their back and pleading = baton beating....
    I'm against her having shocked him into that position to begin with. I'd have gone straight for the baton, thus ensuring he couldn't walk away.

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    The dude releashed his dogs. All she had to do was awnser his question on as to if she was going to cite him or not. You dont just hold people there and hope they do something further incriminating so that you can ramp up your use of force.
    They shouldn't have been off the leash to begin with. At that point, he loses all sympathy from me.

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    The guy was no longer walking away when she tazed him. Case closed.
    Doesn't matter in my mind. The moment he does not comply 100% and immediately with her commands he loses all sympathy from me.

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    "self defense" arguement??? Wooooow. Thats a retarded route to take. The only reason why i brought up "follow him to his car" was for further identification to back up the name he gave her. But to inject "He could have shot her with a gun" over a leash dispute is just petty. Especially seeing as the guy never once showed signs of agression. She did not taze him in self defense. She did it for compliance. This has already been established buddy.
    Unfortunately that sort of thing happens to LEO's all the time. That's why they generally don't all you to go back into your car/house/bag for something.... They can't be sure of what you're reaching for.

    As for compliance... that's fine with me.

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    Re: Ranger zaps off-leash dog walker with shock weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I'm against her having shocked him into that position to begin with. I'd have gone straight for the baton, thus ensuring he couldn't walk away.



    They shouldn't have been off the leash to begin with. At that point, he loses all sympathy from me.



    Doesn't matter in my mind. The moment he does not comply 100% and immediately with her commands he loses all sympathy from me.



    Unfortunately that sort of thing happens to LEO's all the time. That's why they generally don't all you to go back into your car/house/bag for something.... They can't be sure of what you're reaching for.

    As for compliance... that's fine with me.
    She wouldnt be following him so she could get his ID from the car (or a gun). She would follow him to his car and run his license plate to make sure the owner matches the name he gave her.

    You also sound like a partially pathetic person. Someone who will only confront a problem if they have the upper hand in the situation. If you go around beating people with weapons willy-nilly eventually some do gooder is going to knock your ass to the ground and not care about the repurcusions to themselves. Or some psycho who thinks themselves a do gooder is going to stalk you and murder your ass.

    You cant say you favor law then turn around and say you would beat people with batons if they failed to show ID and you wished to detain them without making up your mind wether or not you are going to give them a citation. You cant be on both sides. You cant bark at the reflection of meat and keep the steak in your mouth at the same time.
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    Re: Ranger zaps off-leash dog walker with shock weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So with millions of LEO's, you can't even come up with more examples than I could count on one hand

    You only proved my point that the prosecution of cops who fire on fleeing suspects is rare

    (Note: Your such a fail at this debate that you don't even realize that at least one of those examples have nothing to do with a suspect who is fleeing)
    Do you really think that was all he could come up with? Or perhaps because those were recent, they took up the most space on google because they were big news?

    He provided you 3 instances and you tell him he needs to provide more? Is this like simon says? Because you didn't simon says.

    Police get in trouble pretty frequently, but it doesn't make the news usually.
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    Re: Ranger zaps off-leash dog walker with shock weapon

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    Re: Park ranger shoots man with stun gun for walking dogs off-leash

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    This makes me wonder why park rangers need to carry tasers.
    For the animal on animal crime of course.

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    Re: Park ranger shoots man with stun gun for walking dogs off-leash

    If the story is true, and she didn't at some time tell him why he should stay, then she should have at least did that and this is partially her fault. If she had told him either before the other two people arrived or the situation did not go down as they are saying it did (witnesses are not always reliable), and she did tell him why he needed to stick around, then totally his fault. Or maybe she was busy talking to someone on a radio when the guy started trying to leave. Or filling out a citation. (This would actually make more sense than her just standing there doing nothing.)

    However, that being said, I have done a lot of research into our national parks and forests lately and learned about a lot of rangers having a much more dangerous job these days due to drug cartels setting up operations to grow marijuana or make meth in the parks. A park ranger was just shot and killed in recent months in Mt. Ranier National Park during a stop.

    Following him wherever would be very bad procedure. He could have been one of those guys working for the drug cartels or some psycho more than willing to kill some random park ranger for something petty. (Does sound a little farfetched but it is possible.) And procedures are set to ensure that the worst doesn't happen.
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