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    Re: Ranger zaps off-leash dog walker with shock weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Which is part of the reason our country is headed down the toilet faster than the Titanic found the bottom of the North Atlantic.
    In the "good old days" people would have been allowed to walk their dogs without it being a criminal act.

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    Re: Ranger zaps off-leash dog walker with shock weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    If that's directed at me then you missed some earlier posts. When MaggieD asked what the ranger should have done my response was: The reasons a LEO might use a taser shouldn't be much different than those for using any lethal weapon (a baton is a lethal weapon). To me it's a (usually) non-lethal substitute for a lethal weapon. (There are times when firearm use is warranted, too.) Given only the facts in the OP the ranger should not have used the taser.
    Actually it was just directed at PT's linked article. Sorry, didn't mean to point at you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    In the "good old days" people would have been allowed to walk their dogs without it being a criminal act.
    I'm mixed on this. I have always had obedient dogs that can be trusted off leash but there are other dogs that are vicious and can kill people. Some people think because the dog is nice around their family that it will be nice to strangers which is not always the case.

    I think the government makes these blanket rules for efficiency. It would be nice if you could have some kind of temperament exam and be allowed to have the dog off leash if you have vet documentation or something to back it up.


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    Re: Ranger zaps off-leash dog walker with shock weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by Paratrooper View Post
    I'm mixed on this. I have always had obedient dogs that can be trusted off leash but there are other dogs that are vicious and can kill people. Some people think because the dog is nice around their family that it will be nice to strangers which is not always the case.
    I would never allow one of our dogs off leash either even though at least the one wouldn't bite you even if you put your hand in it' mouth. But the point was that "back in the old days people were respectful to law officers". I do not disagree that people are less so but when there are those who want to control nearly every aspect of everyone's life, I can understand the push back.

    In the "old days" the officer most likely would have simply informed the person about the new law and allowed them to go on their way.

    I think the government makes these blanket rules for efficiency. It would be nice if you could have some kind of temperament exam and be allowed to have the dog off leash if you have vet documentation or something to back it up.
    Or understand that the overwhelming vast majority of people are responsible with their pets. I'm not big on creating laws where 60 million people walk their dog with no problem but in one case there is.

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    Re: Ranger zaps off-leash dog walker with shock weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    In the "good old days" people would have been allowed to walk their dogs without it being a criminal act.
    In the "good olde days" there wouldn't have been a public park like that. It would have been private property and letting your dogs loose on my property would likely have lead to me coming out with a gun to ensure that both you and the dogs got off my property and stayed off it, one way or another. It's STILL legal to shoot dogs that bother livestock in most states.

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    Re: Ranger zaps off-leash dog walker with shock weapon

    It seems that now days your average cop is just a money collector. QUOTAS QUOTAS QUOTAS.

    I've had cops let me off with just a warning. So maybe im not being fair. But it really does feel like cops are money collectors more than civil protection.
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    Re: Ranger zaps off-leash dog walker with shock weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    In the "good olde days" there wouldn't have been a public park like that. It would have been private property and letting your dogs loose on my property would likely have lead to me coming out with a gun to ensure that both you and the dogs got off my property and stayed off it, one way or another. It's STILL legal to shoot dogs that bother livestock in most states.
    Let's stop defending the Nazi Park bitch.
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    Re: Ranger zaps off-leash dog walker with shock weapon

    My first instinct is to not believe the story. I just have a hard time believing someone who doesn't have the intelligence to remain there while the ranger checks their name. I mean it just seems...fishy. Not to mention the range was a woman, and so it makes me wonder if there was anything else stated or done during this or by the idiot who did not comply (because let's face it you are a total moron if you do not comply).

    As far as dogs go:

    It is legal to shoot a dog in a defensive situation, and certainly if it is causing problems on your land. LEOs also have a right to protect themselves. Remember you are liable for your dog's action.
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    Re: Ranger zaps off-leash dog walker with shock weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Let's stop defending the Nazi Park bitch.
    Do we know she is? I didn't catch her statement. I certainly know that I do not want to trust someone who total disregards what a LEO says. I mean sure she is out of line if all that happened is what the idiot said, but if there is more to this story I want to know.
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    Re: Ranger zaps off-leash dog walker with shock weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    In the "good olde days" there wouldn't have been a public park like that.
    Of course there would. Parks aren't some new invention.

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