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    Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Those who want to drug test welfare recipients in Indiana suffered a setback on Friday.

    The bill was withdrawn in the House after it was suggested that the pool of people to be drug tested should expand to include lawmakers themselves.
    So here is the question we all want to know - What do the Indiana lawmakers have to hide? If drug testing is good enough for mothers and children who are receiving food stamps, then it is damn well good enough for lawmakers too.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    So here is the question we all want to know - What do the Indiana lawmakers have to hide? If drug testing is good enough for mothers and children who are receiving food stamps, then it is damn well good enough for lawmakers too.

    Article is here.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    I don't understand. Why would the lawmakers have to be drug tested if they are NOT on welfare or taking foodstamps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post
    I don't understand. Why would the lawmakers have to be drug tested if they are NOT on welfare or taking foodstamps?
    Why shouldn't law makers have to take drug tests?

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Some of them should be drug tested and given lie detectors frequently.. I don't see anything wrong with the idea for the most part.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    They are paid with tax dollars, yes?
    Why, yes, as a matter of fact, I believe they are. They are public servants, and so are paid by the public they are supposed to be serving.

    Of course, the employer has the right to insist on drug testing, and should.

    As for drug testing of welfare recipients, that has been done, with some interesting results:

    Drug testing of welfare applicants in Florida - which has been mandatory since July - finds they're less likely than the public at large to use illegal drugs.
    Anyone taking bets on whether drug testing the legislators would have the same result?
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    So here is the question we all want to know - What do the Indiana lawmakers have to hide? If drug testing is good enough for mothers and children who are receiving food stamps, then it is damn well good enough for lawmakers too.

    Article is here.

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    If military personnel,law enforcement,firefighters, teachers, and pretty much any other tax payer funded employee has to be piss tested then surely so can welfare recipients and politicians.
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Why, yes, as a matter of fact, I believe they are. They are public servants, and so are paid by the public they are supposed to be serving.

    Of course, the employer has the right to insist on drug testing, and should.

    As for drug testing of welfare recipients, that has been done, with some interesting results:



    Anyone taking bets on whether drug testing the legislators would have the same result?
    Anyone with advance notice can pass a piss test. It isn't hard.My best fried passes his piss tests all the time.All it takes is enough time to drive to a friend or relatives house and collect urine from a friend or relative who does not do drugs and keeping that urine warm and concealed. If they made these welfare recipients all go down the welfare office to collect their welfare and food stamps on a regular bases and randomly test them on the spot I guarantee the results would be a lot higher.
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    I can't believe another state is going down this road after the humiliation of the Florida governor when it turned out that a much smaller percentage of welfare recipients are on drugs than in the population as a whole. His bigotry turned out to be totally misplaced. Why would more politicians want to throw themselves down that well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Anyone with advance notice can pass a piss test. It isn't hard.My best fried passes his piss tests all the time.All it takes is enough time to drive to a friend or relatives house and collect urine from a friend or relative who does not do drugs and keeping that urine warm and concealed. If they made these welfare recipients all go down the welfare office to collect their welfare and food stamps on a regular bases and randomly test them on the spot I guarantee the results would be a lot higher.
    Interesting your best friend is a drug addict. You know what they say birds of a feather and all, and this guarantee. Do you know a lot of welfare recipients who use and sell drugs?

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