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Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

j-mac said:
Aw Bull! You don't know what the hell you are talking about.


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If your business isn't sound and is relying on paying ****ty wages perhaps you shouldn't be in business.
 
j-mac said:
How many small businesses do you suppose would go out of business if a "Living Wage" were enacted as law?


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The same number that went out of business due to minimum wage, virtually none.
 
I thought this thread was about drug testing.


Isn't there, like, TWO thread in the general political section, right now, about minimum wage? Just gotta spill it all over the place, don't ya?
 
KevinKohler said:
I thought this thread was about drug testing.
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We have been discussing drug testing welfare recipients and branched out to other related subjects. What would you like to add to the drug testing discussion?
 
AdamT said:
If you're paying $200/month then your employer is probably paying twice that much for your policy -- which actually reduces your pay by the same amount.
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In theory. While the employer's portion is an overall part of your "salary" package, it would be naive to think you'd see a dollar-for-dollar increase if the employer suddenly didn't have that expense anymore.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Now, that would be a great idea for people who have jobs.
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Yes, we pay less for welfare, more people have money to consume, which in turn creates demand, which means additional jobs for more people to get off welfare.

Sounds horrible doesn't it?
 
Catawba said:
We have been discussing drug testing welfare recipients and branched out to other related subjects. What would you like to add to the drug testing discussion?
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Remove the laws that criminalize the consumption of various substances. Problem solved.
 
KevinKohler said:
Remove the laws that criminalize the consumption of various substances. Problem solved.
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Not necessarily. In this scenario...

If the problem is keeping people from using illegal substances with tax money, ok, the problem is "solved"... though nothing really changes.

If the problem is people not having the encouragement or wherewithal to work, due to drugs and the such, then the legal status is irrelevant and nothing has been solved.
 
KevinKohler said:
Remove the laws that criminalize the consumption of various substances. Problem solved.
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Sounds like a good idea to me, but it doesn't sound like it would solve the problem that some people have in finding a way to cut funding for the those in need.
 
Catawba said:
Sounds like a good idea to me, but it doesn't sound like it would solve the problem that some people have in finding a way to cut funding for the those in need.
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Seems to me it would. I mean, they are not proposing we drug test for nicotine of booze.
 
KevinKohler said:
Seems to me it would. I mean, they are not proposing we drug test for nicotine of booze.
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And what do the pro-drug testing folks say about your suggestion?
 
KevinKohler said:
They are also likely the pro keep drugs illegal crowd.
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Most of the pro-test people on this thread just want to test poor people, they have no interest in testing the greater population at large.
 
Catawba said:
Most of the pro-test people on this thread just want to test poor people, they have no interest in testing the greater population at large.
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I would disagree...most of them are all for testing senators, and any other government position. And if rich people want government aid, test them too. That seems to be the stance. You want government money, pee in a cup.

Hogwash, if you ask me. Booze costs just as much as meth, and is ALMOST as destructive to one's ability to procure and hold a job. We ain't testing for that, though, are we? Seems fishy. I think most people won't be happy until they control, literally, every aspect of any welfare recipient's life, right down to when they piss in the morning.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Now, that would be a great idea for people who have jobs.
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Too late, according to people like Cat, those who don't have jobs, too damned bad for them. To put it in terms he can understand, in the words of a congressional hero of his, Alan Grayson of Florida...."The plan under Democrat/Progressives is simple...To the poor, DIE, and DIE QUICKLY"


j-mac
 
KevinKohler said:
I would disagree...most of them are all for testing senators, and any other government position. And if rich people want government aid, test them too. That seems to be the stance. You want government money, pee in a cup.

Hogwash, if you ask me. Booze costs just as much as meth, and is ALMOST as destructive to one's ability to procure and hold a job. We ain't testing for that, though, are we? Seems fishy. I think most people won't be happy until they control, literally, every aspect of any welfare recipient's life, right down to when they piss in the morning.
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Then there are those who don't want to stop with welfare recipients, or government employees, or anyone. They want to control the lives of everyone.
 
Catawba said:
Most of the pro-test people on this thread just want to test poor people, they have no interest in testing the greater population at large.
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Only folks on the public dole. If they want free cash from the taxpayers, they need to be clean and sober. Why is that a problem with you?
 
Prof. Peabody said:
Only folks on the public dole. If they want free cash from the taxpayers, they need to be clean and sober. Why is that a problem with you?
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If they are not clean and sober, then what do we do with them and their children?
 
Prof. Peabody said:
Only folks on the public dole. If they want free cash from the taxpayers, they need to be clean and sober. Why is that a problem with you?
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Politicians, state employees, and federal employees receive money from the taxpayers. Why do you oppose testing them?
 
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