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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by barbarian_style View Post
    ok this is getting way to expensive now, I mean really I don't want my great grandchildren to think I was some leech sucking off them creating all this unfunded debt.
    Don't worry, they are going to. It's going to take GENERATIONS to sort this out, and that's IF we start now, and seriously.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The war on drugs really is a liberal, big government sort of program, isn't it?
    I just really am not seeing any conservatism in it all.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    By logical extension, if it's for the children, we should be drug testing EVERY PARENT, regardless of social/financial status. After all, many self-providing people are drug users as well. Hence, the welfare money aspect is moot.


    The welfare aspect isn't moot. If a parent not on welfare tests positive for drugs in the work place then that work place should report the parent. If a parent on welfare tests positive for drugs then an investigation into the welfare of the child should ensue. Children in poverty have a great need of care and support than children outside of poverty, so if a little bit of government intervention into children known to live in poverty (through the parent's application) helps prevent these children from stagnating then I'm all for it.
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Yeah, that's great for you. But there are still several million children in this country who do not "turn out okay" because of the lack of care they receive due to the dependencies of their parents. Personally? I don't see a lot of harm coming from marijuana use in parents, either. But marijuana isn't the only drug people use. And alcohol isn't always "okay", either. That's why, if a parent using the system to support their family tests positive for drugs of ANY kind, there should be an investigation into the welfare of the children.
    there should ALWAYS be investigations into people who collect welfare, the drug use facet notwithstanding. homes should be visited routinely.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    What makes illegal drugs different or worse than alcohol, nicotine, or caffeine?

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by barbarian_style View Post
    I just really am not seeing any conservatism in it all.
    and yet the people who call themselves conservatives seem to be the most likely to support it. Ironic, isn't it?
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Yeah, that's great for you. But there are still several million children in this country who do not "turn out okay" because of the lack of care they receive due to the dependencies of their parents. Personally? I don't see a lot of harm coming from marijuana use in parents, either. But marijuana isn't the only drug people use. And alcohol isn't always "okay", either. That's why, if a parent using the system to support their family tests positive for drugs of ANY kind, there should be an investigation into the welfare of the children.
    And who does this investigating? A system that makes money on the number of children entered into? Kinda like the one we have now? Filled with social workers who have either never had kids, don't even LIKE kids, or who's kids likely do drugs, lol. The current trend these days is taking obese kids away from their parents. I guess they don't have a right to be fat, or to have fat kids?

    I agree that some form of oversight should be in place for kids who have crap parents. Were we diverge is where that oversight should come from.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    What makes illegal drugs different or worse than alcohol, nicotine, or caffeine?
    They're easier to make, and therefor harder to tax.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    The welfare aspect isn't moot. If a parent not on welfare tests positive for drugs in the work place then that work place should report the parent. If a parent on welfare tests positive for drugs then an investigation into the welfare of the child should ensue. Children in poverty have a great need of care and support than children outside of poverty, so if a little bit of government intervention into children known to live in poverty (through the parent's application) helps prevent these children from stagnating then I'm all for it.
    You dont find that a bit too over stepping of the government? And who is going to pay for all of that monitoring?

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    The welfare aspect isn't moot. If a parent not on welfare tests positive for drugs in the work place then that work place should report the parent. If a parent on welfare tests positive for drugs then an investigation into the welfare of the child should ensue. Children in poverty have a great need of care and support than children outside of poverty, so if a little bit of government intervention into children known to live in poverty (through the parent's application) helps prevent these children from stagnating then I'm all for it.
    Wow. Just.....wow.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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