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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Is there another way to pay them?
    Nope, I think you said it clear there, only more big government, spending more money than it takes in. Maybe the federal government should mandate it across the nation and sell it as a jobs bill.
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Your assumption is a bit ludicrous. You think that a drug addict is going to get clean just to collect a few hundred bucks worth of foot stamps? Suddenly, if she has to take a drug test, she's going to turn into June Cleaver? The more likely scenario is that she instead resorts to petty theft and/or panhandling and/or prostitution.
    That's not what I'm saying at all. If anything, an applicant or recpient who tests positive for drugs should then be subject to massive state intervention on behalf of the children, who are my main focus. Whether they decide to invest that money into rehab or foster care, anything is better for the child than living with a drug-using parent. I could care less what the adult decides to do to themselves, but the children need advocates.
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    That's not what I'm saying at all. If anything, an applicant or recpient who tests positive for drugs should then be subject to massive state intervention on behalf of the children, who are my main focus. Whether they decide to invest that money into rehab or foster care, anything is better for the child than living with a drug-using parent. I could care less what the adult decides to do to themselves, but the children need advocates.
    particularly if it is something that's really bad for the children, like nicotine for example.
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    That's not what I'm saying at all. If anything, an applicant or recpient who tests positive for drugs should then be subject to massive state intervention on behalf of the children, who are my main focus. Whether they decide to invest that money into rehab or foster care, anything is better for the child than living with a drug-using parent. I could care less what the adult decides to do to themselves, but the children need advocates.

    Now its going to even cost more money? wow! where is all this big government money coming from?

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    That's not what I'm saying at all. If anything, an applicant or recpient who tests positive for drugs should then be subject to massive state intervention on behalf of the children, who are my main focus. Whether they decide to invest that money into rehab or foster care, anything is better for the child than living with a drug-using parent. I could care less what the adult decides to do to themselves, but the children need advocates.
    My dad smoke pot. I came out OK, I think. My wife's mother drinks, and her step dad smokes pot every day. She came out OK, too.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    particularly if it is something that's really bad for the children, like nicotine for example.
    ok this is getting way to expensive now, I mean really I don't want my great grandchildren to think I was some leech sucking off them creating all this unfunded debt.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by barbarian_style View Post
    Now its going to even cost more money? wow! where is all this big government money coming from?
    I'd rather spend the money on the children, invest in them and promote healthy growth and development so that they don't perpetuate a cycle of drug abuse, or poverty, or emotional abuse, or any other large number of potential consequences of living with a parent who neglects them due to drug or alcohol dependency/abuse.
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    That's not what I'm saying at all. If anything, an applicant or recpient who tests positive for drugs should then be subject to massive state intervention on behalf of the children, who are my main focus. Whether they decide to invest that money into rehab or foster care, anything is better for the child than living with a drug-using parent. I could care less what the adult decides to do to themselves, but the children need advocates.
    By logical extension, if it's for the children, we should be drug testing EVERY PARENT, regardless of social/financial status. After all, many self-providing people are drug users as well. Hence, the welfare money aspect is moot.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by barbarian_style View Post
    ok this is getting way to expensive now, I mean really I don't want my great grandchildren to think I was some leech sucking off them creating all this unfunded debt.
    The war on drugs really is a liberal, big government sort of program, isn't it?
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    My dad smoke pot. I came out OK, I think. My wife's mother drinks, and her step dad smokes pot every day. She came out OK, too.
    Yeah, that's great for you. But there are still several million children in this country who do not "turn out okay" because of the lack of care they receive due to the dependencies of their parents. Personally? I don't see a lot of harm coming from marijuana use in parents, either. But marijuana isn't the only drug people use. And alcohol isn't always "okay", either. That's why, if a parent using the system to support their family tests positive for drugs of ANY kind, there should be an investigation into the welfare of the children.
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