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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Personally, I'd rather a swacked out druggie be on welfare and not making laws that affect my life.

    But, that's just me.
    Ok, then test the politicians too, I don't care.


    In fact I'm not necessarily in support of drug testing all welfare recipients because I'm not sure that's cost-effective. If, however, a person receiving any federal assistance happens to test hot for controlled substances not prescribed to him/her (e.g. in the course of receiving medical attention), I think the benefits should stop right there. Funding people's drug habits actually directly harms them.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    I don't care if someone is subject to a drug test as a condition of employment. I'm not opposed to that. What I'm opposed to is the idiocy that sees no difference between taxpayers compensating an employee vs. taxpayers funding the poor's drug habits.
    If they have a drug habit, you're funding both. But where do we draw the line? Can we pick what they eat? Who they see socially? How much they exercise? How far do we go with this?

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Ok, then test the politicians too, I don't care.


    In fact I'm not necessarily in support of drug testing all welfare recipients because I'm not sure that's cost-effective. If, however, a person receiving any federal assistance happens to test hot for controlled substances not prescribed to him/her (e.g. in the course of receiving medical attention), I think the benefits should stop right there. Funding people's drug habits actually directly harms them.
    What do you foresee as the results of such a policy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    If they have a drug habit, you're funding both. But where do we draw the line? Can we pick what they eat? Who they see socially? How much they exercise? How far do we go with this?
    Ideally, no. No need to control people, just stop paying them to be dysfunctional.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    What do you foresee as the results of such a policy?
    We could speculate about that for another 50 posts, but really I see no result worse than enriching pharmaceutical companies and wasting tax revenues and scarce medical attention keeping people in an active stage of addiction.

    Rock bottom is an ugly place, but I'd rather see people gain the motivation to get clean as a result of it than be protected from it and thus perpetuated in an addictive cycle by taxpayer funds. I've talked to a lot of recovered addicts who would never trade in the time they were abandoned by their friends, family and the system, broke and in DTs, because the experience finally got bad enough for something to click and they finally got inspired to live sober.

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