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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    I would disagree...most of them are all for testing senators, and any other government position. And if rich people want government aid, test them too. That seems to be the stance. You want government money, pee in a cup.

    Hogwash, if you ask me. Booze costs just as much as meth, and is ALMOST as destructive to one's ability to procure and hold a job. We ain't testing for that, though, are we? Seems fishy. I think most people won't be happy until they control, literally, every aspect of any welfare recipient's life, right down to when they piss in the morning.
    Then there are those who don't want to stop with welfare recipients, or government employees, or anyone. They want to control the lives of everyone.
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Most of the pro-test people on this thread just want to test poor people, they have no interest in testing the greater population at large.
    Only folks on the public dole. If they want free cash from the taxpayers, they need to be clean and sober. Why is that a problem with you?
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    Only folks on the public dole. If they want free cash from the taxpayers, they need to be clean and sober. Why is that a problem with you?
    So Senators and Congressmen?

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    Only folks on the public dole. If they want free cash from the taxpayers, they need to be clean and sober. Why is that a problem with you?
    If they are not clean and sober, then what do we do with them and their children?
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    Only folks on the public dole. If they want free cash from the taxpayers, they need to be clean and sober. Why is that a problem with you?
    Politicians, state employees, and federal employees receive money from the taxpayers. Why do you oppose testing them?

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Politicians, state employees, and federal employees receive money from the taxpayers. Why do you oppose testing them?
    And what do we do with them and their children?


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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Politicians, state employees, and federal employees receive money from the taxpayers. Why do you oppose testing them?
    Because they are paid to perform a job / provide a service to the public. It's employment.

    Welfare recipients, on the other hand, receive money predicated on the claim that they cannot support themselves because they are too helpless/disabled/whatever to obtain any money on their own. If people are using drugs while receiving welfare, then this claim is a lie and it's welfare fraud. The reality in those cases is that they don't have money and aren't able to get any because they are too busy feeding their habit. And so to give them more money/benefits when this is their pattern is to basically enable their addictions and bad habits. This does not actually help them.


    You honestly couldn't figure that out on your own?
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Because they are paid to perform a job / provide a service to the public. It's employment.

    Welfare recipients, on the other hand, receive money predicated on the claim that they cannot support themselves because they are too helpless/disabled/whatever to obtain any money on their own.


    You honestly couldn't figure that out on your own?
    So, it's OK to use our funds for drugs overall. Just one group group can't?

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Because they are paid to perform a job / provide a service to the public. It's employment.

    Welfare recipients, on the other hand, receive money predicated on the claim that they cannot support themselves because they are too helpless/disabled/whatever to obtain any money on their own.


    You honestly couldn't figure that out on your own?
    Personally, I'd rather a swacked out druggie be on welfare and not making laws that affect my life.

    But, that's just me.
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    So, it's OK to use our funds for drugs overall. Just one group group can't?
    I don't care if someone is subject to a drug test as a condition of employment. I'm not opposed to that. What I'm opposed to is the idiocy that sees no difference between taxpayers compensating an employee vs. taxpayers funding the poor's drug habits.

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