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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Minimum wage for my locality in Virginia is $7.25 an hour. According to the living wage calculator developed by Pennsylvania State University, a living wage in my locality would only be $8.23. An increase of $0.98 an hour doesn't sound unrealistic to me for those that work full time.

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    BWAHAAAAAA! Living Wage Calculator....That is priceless....the figure in my county, and state, as a Married couple with two children says I should demand $28.65 per hour.....HA! Good luck with that in the Obama economy.


    hello. Mickey D's? I have a wife and two kids, I demand you pay me a living wage of $28.65 per hour....Response: The door is over there sir.....





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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Minimum wage in most states is below a living wage and require subsidies through taxpayer supported welfare.
    Not true at all. The living wage according to the above calculator for my family, 4 people, is $29.17. I make well under that. My wife doesn't work. I receive no welfare of any kind. And we live fairly comfortably.

    Living within our means is perfectly fine. My kids and I and my wife all have everything we need. We just might not be able to get all of the latest stuff. That doesnt quite constitute a need though.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    "Living Wage" is just another meme of the Social Marxist to incite class warfare.


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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    BWAHAAAAAA! Living Wage Calculator....That is priceless....the figure in my county, and state, as a Married couple with two children says I should demand $28.65 per hour.....HA! Good luck with that in the Obama economy.


    hello. Mickey D's? I have a wife and two kids, I demand you pay me a living wage of $28.65 per hour....Response: The door is over there sir.....





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    The $28.65 is for two adults with two kids.

    A couple making $28.65 is unheard of in your area? Where do you live?
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Do they/you factor in the potential for inflation to fund the wage increase? IOW: if the MW is raised to $8.23/hr, does the needed "living wage" suddenly rise to $8.97? That's the dog/tail chasing aspect.
    You are assuming companies won't lower excessive management pay in order to increase competition (sales).

    Now, I have known people who always wail and gnash their teeth that any significant minimum wage increase will cause a high percentage of businesses to close right off the bat, and I think that is brain dead hyperbole as it has never once been born out, but I do think there has to be some level of compensation on the other end.

    Of course, a living wage on paper, and what people think they need as a living wage to fund their video games and satellite tv and such are two entirely different things.

    The living wage calculator and all that I have ever heard anyone propose are a minimum living standard just above the poverty line so that welfare would not be needed for supplement subsistence.
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Not true at all. The living wage according to the above calculator for my family, 4 people, is $29.17. I make well under that. My wife doesn't work. I receive no welfare of any kind. And we live fairly comfortably.

    Living within our means is perfectly fine. My kids and I and my wife all have everything we need. We just might not be able to get all of the latest stuff. That doesnt quite constitute a need though.
    How much is your health insurance per year for you and the family?
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    A couple making $28.65 is unheard of in your area? Where do you live?
    Expecting to make $28.65 an hour pretty high. Not every couple is a double income family. Noone NEEDS $28/hr + to survive.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You are assuming companies won't lower excessive management pay in order to increase competition (sales).
    You bet. I am presuming exactly that. I'm sure some companies might, but I think those would be the exception, not the rule.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    How much is your health insurance per year for you and the family?

    I have it taken out of my check automatically. I don't have the exact figure, but I pay roughtly $200/mo for health, dental, vision and life insurance.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I have it taken out of my check automatically. I don't have the exact figure, but I pay roughtly $200/mo for health, dental, vision and life insurance.
    If you're paying $200/month then your employer is probably paying twice that much for your policy -- which actually reduces your pay by the same amount.

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