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    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Actually, I would suspect that the price of collection could easily be negotiated based on volume. However, the company I quoted from, indicated that they are charging their highest volume clients about $25.00 per test including collection fees (which according to them average $8.00). So, no. The average price really doesn't matter - since you are including small companies that are charged much higher rates per test. Look. You are wrong, but will obviously keep trying to convince yourself you were right. So, i'll let you win. I don't want to be responsible for any existential crisis or anything.
    Oh and you say they will get 25 cause the government always gets the good price like how the military gets great deals on wrenches and toilets. Lol

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We were not talking about drug testing for people that benefit from government policy? What's good for the goose is good for the gander!
    Two wrongs do not make a right.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Two wrongs do not make a right.
    What are you talking about?
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    Oh and you say they will get 25 cause the government always gets the good price like how the military gets great deals on wrenches and toilets. Lol
    Two very different things, but don't let that stop you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Two very different things, but don't let that stop you.
    Not different at all.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    And despite the stereotyping of welfare people, most of them would like to work.
    Based on my purely anectdotal, first hand experience I would disagree. At least in the case of the homeless shelter, very few had any actual mental illness and very few really wanted to work. There were occasional exceptions to that, but really not many.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    If testing has legal ramifications they should use reliable tests done in a lab not some silly strip from cvs.
    Those silly little strips are pretty damn accurate. What would be wrong with using them. Could easily make it so that if a person comes up hot on the strip they retest them with labcorp or someone like that. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Based on my purely anectdotal, first hand experience I would disagree. At least in the case of the homeless shelter, very few had any actual mental illness and very few really wanted to work. There were occasional exceptions to that, but really not many.
    Wait, is your problem with the homeless, or people on welfare?
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Based on my purely anectdotal, first hand experience I would disagree. At least in the case of the homeless shelter, very few had any actual mental illness and very few really wanted to work. There were occasional exceptions to that, but really not many.
    A homeless shelter is a bad example and does not represent the average welfare recipient. Most are just people down on their luck and needed a temporary assistance to get back on their feet. But then culturally one has to figure in that most people with really good job ethics wouldnt be caught dead receiving welfare. I am not saying that they are bad people for receiving assistance just that for some people it is degrading and wrong culturally to go on welfare. Some people indeed have different opinions on the matter.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    And despite the stereotyping of welfare people, most of them would like to work.
    I dont know about "most". I would say many of them would like to work.

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