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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    I already did,but here you go again. The cost of a drug test is above $50. There are 140 million on some form of public assistance or another. So the math is simple. Billions. That's with only one test per year.

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    Not that I support this, but i'm not sure why you would have to test everyone every year. You just have to do a random sampling.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    So conservatives insist on these rights-infringing conditions, and then say, "See! I told you that government infringes on your rights!"
    I guess if this was the only example of a growing government infringing on rights, you would have a point. However, as I hope you realize, it isn't.

    And it really isn't "right infringing" to say if you want "A" you have to do "B". The individual that wants "A" has every right to not do "B" and forgo the receipt of "A"
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    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Not that I support this, but i'm not sure why you would have to test everyone every year. You just have to do a random sampling.
    Well if we even test just half it is still billions.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    Well if we even test just half it is still billions.
    In other words, just make up a percentage to test and a dollar amount per test and claim victory. Got it. A quick search on the net found lower cost drug testing then you indicated. Also, I suspect that the governemnt could negotiate for even lower costs. It might even make sense for them to just do it in house, I am not an expert on drug testing, so couldn't tell you.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    I guess if this was the only example of a growing government infringing on rights, you would have a point. However, as I hope you realize, it isn't.

    And it really isn't "right infringing" to say if you want "A" you have to do "B". The individual that wants "A" has every right to not do "B" and forgo the receipt of "A"
    According to a federal judge in Florida, it is an infringement of the 4th Amendment right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    In other words, just make up a percentage to test and a dollar amount per test and claim victory. Got it. A quick search on the net found lower cost drug testing then you indicated. Also, I suspect that the governemnt could negotiate for even lower costs. It might even make sense for them to just do it in house, I am not an expert on drug testing, so couldn't tell you.
    Post what you found. But those cheap drug testing strips have a high false positive and false negative %, and are easy to beat. I also don't think that they will be able to negotiate a much lower price. It will cost billions.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    Post what you found. But those cheap drug testing strips have a high false positive and false negative %, and are easy to beat. I also don't think that they will be able to negotiate a much lower price. It will cost billions.
    It was a company offering the test for $35.00. Again, it was just a quick search and the first result that popped up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    It was a company offering the test for $35.00. Again, it was just a quick search and the first result that popped up.
    Well let's see the company. Are they national and reputable? We can't know if you won't say who they are. Even at $35 its billions.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Hey, I'll do it for $10 a sample.

    Since no one wants to hear that the test was positive, I'll just toss the samples and send a letter saying that the test was negative.

    I'll make a mint and keep everyone happy.
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    Well let's see the company. Are they national and reputable? We can't know if you won't say who they are. Even at $35 its billions.
    I know. Decrease the cost of the test and decrease the percentage of people tested and guess what... Magically still billions.

    Anyway, do a search. Yahoo drug testing costs. It's really not complicated.

    Edit:

    I did another search and found one even cheaper $25.00 vs $35.00 based on volume. Rather flies in the face of your claim that the government can't negotiate a lower price, no?

    OHS, Inc. is a national company with drug testing clients in all 50 states, and we charge from a low of $25 per drug test to a high of $65. The "volume" of testing done by the client annually is the primary variable which applies. As with my competitors, a substantially lower per-test price is offered to a company doing 5,000 to10,000 or more tests annually than to a company doing only 500-1,000 drug tests...or only 5-10 tests each year. Our cost for "specimen collection" at the clinic we must use nearby the client's location(s) also impacts the price (up or down) we ultimately charge. Those costs (the specimen collection, alone) vary around the country from as little as $7 to as much as $35, although the national average is about $16.
    Last edited by buck; 02-01-12 at 12:45 PM.

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