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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    I am curious where the drive for this is coming from, considering alcohol is legal and abused far more than illegal drugs. If the reason for the testing is to make sure they aren't doing something that enables an unsuccesful parent to continue to be unsuccesful, it makes no sense.

    Why the demonization of pot and other drugs all the while ignoring alcohol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I am curious where the drive for this is coming from, considering alcohol is legal and abused far more than illegal drugs. If the reason for the testing is to make sure they aren't doing something that enables an unsuccesful parent to continue to be unsuccesful, it makes no sense.

    Why the demonization of pot and other drugs all the while ignoring alcohol?
    It's just race and class warfare. The radical right's new pass time.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    It's just race and class warfare. The radical right's new pass time.
    I believe this is yours.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I believe this is yours.
    This could be taken either of two ways. The race card could have been played by the person you were responding to, or it could have been played by you and he was merely pointing it out. And it was in your possession, apparently...


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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I am curious where the drive for this is coming from, considering alcohol is legal and abused far more than illegal drugs. If the reason for the testing is to make sure they aren't doing something that enables an unsuccesful parent to continue to be unsuccesful, it makes no sense.

    Why the demonization of pot and other drugs all the while ignoring alcohol?
    Did you forget the legal-line here?

    On that note, though - being an alcoholic can get you in the hot seat, too
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I believe this is yours.
    Perhaps you can answer this then since no other person wants to. What is the reason behind the drug testing? Why just drugs like pot, etc and not alcohol? Alcohol is abused far more than drugs. So really why spend the money on testing for drugs only?

    Aren't you concerned just as much about Dan smoking a joint as you are Bill getting drunk all day? What makes Dan worse than Bill?

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Did you forget the legal-line here?

    On that note, though - being an alcoholic can get you in the hot seat, too
    What makes a person using abusing drugs any less productive than someone using alcohol. What is the REAL reason behind the drug testing?

    BTW, doing something illegal, doesn't make you unproductive by default. It's illegal to speed and there are millions of people that do it everyday.
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    Why shouldn't law makers have to take drug tests?
    It isn't a matter of lawmakers taking or not taking drug tests. The intent of the legislation was to ensure that public money was only going to people who do not use illegal drugs. To allow a person to receive welfare money while using illegal drugs is exactly the same thing as providing them with the drugs. Because that is what drug addicts do with money. They buy more drugs. Why should the governement support someone's crack habit.

    Again, for the millionth time, this is just another liberal attempt to deflect from the actual problem and change the subject. If the legislature wants to make lawmakers subject to drug tests, that should have been an entirely separate bill- however, obviously the intent of ammending the legislation was merely to prevent the passage of a good bill.

    Perhaps you can answer this then since no other person wants to. What is the reason behind the drug testing? Why just drugs like pot, etc and not alcohol? Alcohol is abused far more than drugs. So really why spend the money on testing for drugs only?

    Aren't you concerned just as much about Dan smoking a joint as you are Bill getting drunk all day? What makes Dan worse than Bill?
    People should be tested for both. The reason behind the drug testing is a minimal attempt to cut down on welfare abuses.
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Sounds like a really Libertarian kind of thing to do.................. go for it man!

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    I asked a very specific question, that was on topic
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamikaze483 View Post
    It isn't a matter of lawmakers taking or not taking drug tests. The intent of the legislation was to ensure that public money was only going to people who do not use illegal drugs. To allow a person to receive welfare money while using illegal drugs is exactly the same thing as providing them with the drugs. Because that is what drug addicts do with money. They buy more drugs. Why should the governement support someone's crack habit.

    Again, for the millionth time, this is just another liberal attempt to deflect from the actual problem and change the subject. If the legislature wants to make lawmakers subject to drug tests, that should have been an entirely separate bill- however, obviously the intent of ammending the legislation was merely to prevent the passage of a good bill.

    Politicians get public money too. The point of the amendment was to point out hypocrites.

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