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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    From the link:
    "About 2.5% tested positive, with another 2% percent refusing to take the test. It's estimated that six percent of Americans 12 and older use illegal drugs"

    Estimated!!! Not tested, or proven... estimated. If they were wrong with their previous estimates/expectations, why should we put any credence in this estimate?

    Emphasis in bold mine.

    ETA: Any number below 10% makes the whole issue a non-starter, IMO. Just another emotional wedge issue to curry favor with particular voting blocks.
    Err, unless you drug test every single American, any comparison figure has to be an estimate. But yeah, it would be good to know how they came up with the figure.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by kenvin View Post
    Also, I am concerned with the cost. Drug tests cost money and between wic social security, Medicare, that is billions of dollars of spending.
    $billions on drug testing???? You're kidding, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    $billions on drug testing???? You're kidding, right?
    No it is billions.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    I have a question.
    What happens if people fail the drug test. Should they be fined for using illegal drugs or imprisoned?


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    $50 per test is a low price. Usually costs 70 plus. There are around 140 million people getting government assistance from various programs. That is billions and billions of dollars and nothing but a hand out to drug testing companies.

    The radical right don't really care about wasting tax payer money.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Not true any more. I had to pay for my own drug tests while I was serving probation for DWI. They were 11 bucks each.
    I have no idea the actual costs, but am just throwing out the idea that maybe an $11 price was subsidized. Or, maybe the test was so limited in scope as to be virtually useless, and more of a scare tactic.

    Wouldn't make sense, but stranger things happen.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Not true any more. I had to pay for my own drug tests while I was serving probation for DWI. They were 11 bucks each.
    That was a subsidized cost. SOMEONE paid the other 60 bucks, trust me.
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Nope, I don't want to drug test them.
    I said home visits.
    Sounds like a really Libertarian kind of thing to do.................. go for it man!


    I didn't say that either.
    A home visit /= monitoring peoples homes.
    It has nothing to do with drug use either.

    You still haven't answered the question.
    Does it live in a house,
    Is it smaller than a mouse.......?

    I'm not interested in your games Harry.
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I oppose condoning any behavior that enables an unsuccessful parent to continue to be unsuccessful. . . .drugs are not cheap or free. Not even weed. And if one manages to get some for free in exchange for other activies then perhaps they need to turn that business mind towards actually supporting their family and not their habit.

    I'm much less concerned about the private drug-related conduct of parents who are providing for their children adequately . . . but in those cases it's still fit to intervene when they start to neglect their children.
    I worry more about our policies that have forced millions of kids into poverty in the first place, but that's just me..........................you do what you think you need to do.
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