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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    All this makes me wonder....Can you drug test an applicant for a job in California for marijuana these days?
    No you can't. If he is taking marijuana, it's because he has a disability, and you know the disabled can't work. LOL.
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    If only that were the discussion topic.


    What we're discussing here is whether a drug test should be a condition of welfare benefits. It does not help the seniors, disabled and working poor who are addicts if the state funds their addiction. Giving money to addicts actually does them harm.
    As does giving federal tax cuts to addicts. Drugs are bad, umkay..........
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    Anyone with a Class B drivers license is required too!
    Also these groups:

    Astronauts. Too many of them have had hallucinations, up there in space, and think they see little green men.

    Musicians. We don't want them to sound like Willie Nelson, Jim Morrison, or Frank Zappa. We want them to sound like John Tesh, Billy Ray Cyrus, or a robocall over a telephone.

    Proctologists. For OBVIOUS reasons.

    Tea Partiers and Occupy Wall Streeters. We have had enough insanity in politics.

    Artists. No more Picasso, please. Everything should look like "American Gothic".

    Stephen Hawking. No more crazy stuff about string theory and the like. We want our world to be flat.

    And finally, ALL politicians or politician wannabes - The "crazies" in America must end, especially the insane War on Drugs.

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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Who would have guessed it would be the "Libertarians" calling for jack booted thugs coming into your home to monitor personal conduct!


    The word ironic just seems very inadequate to describe this post.
    Wow at home visits by DFACs workers, now means jack booted thugs.
    Can't help but wonder how your creative imagination makes these transitions.

    Lets see now, you tell the gov you can't feed/support your family without the gov's help.
    The gov has no right to review the well being on the people in said home and to make sure the funds appropriated to those people, are being used correctly?
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Wow at home visits by DFACs workers, now means jack booted thugs.
    Can't help but wonder how your creative imagination makes these transitions.

    Lets see now, you tell the gov you can't feed/support your family without the gov's help.
    The gov has no right to review the well being on the people in said home and to make sure the funds appropriated to those people, are being used correctly?


    Is this the neo-Libertarian position???

    Why not just pay people a living wage and reduce the need for taxpayer supported welfare?
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Is this the neo-Libertarian position???
    Off topic derailment and deflecting from the question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Why not just pay people a living wage and reduce the need for taxpayer supported welfare?
    This has nothing to do with this thread.
    Why don't you answer my question, instead of derailing and deflecting.

    If you seek some form of government assistance, you're admitting that you can't support yourself and your family.
    Does the government not have an interest, in you telling the truth and that the well fair of the individuals (especially the children) is in good state?
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    If you seek some form of government assistance, you're admitting that you can't support yourself and your family.
    There are 4 people for every job currently, what do you suggest the people do for which there are no jobs available?


    Does the government not have an interest, in you telling the truth and that the well fair of the individuals (especially the children) is in good state?
    Reminds me of "1984" - "Life in the Oceanian province of Airstrip One is a world of perpetual war, pervasive government surveillance"
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    There are 4 people for every job currently, what do you suggest the people do for which there are no jobs available?

    Reminds me of "1984" - "Life in the Oceanian province of Airstrip One is a world of perpetual war, pervasive government surveillance"
    Neither of these answers the question, it's further derailment and deflection from the original question.
    I guess you don't want to answer it, because you know that your comparisons are fallacious.
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Neither of these answers the question, it's further derailment and deflection from the original question.
    I guess you don't want to answer it, because you know that your comparisons are fallacious.
    What question player? The OP question:

    What do the Indiana lawmakers have to hide?
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    Re: Drug testing for welfare recipients suffers setback

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What question player? The OP question:
    If you seek some form of government assistance, you're admitting that you can't support yourself and your family.
    Does the government not have an interest, in you telling the truth and that the well fair of the individuals (especially the children) is in good state?
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