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    UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay deeply disturbed by US failure...

    Here's the UN Press Release. Does anyone else see several layers of problems here?

    Obviously, GITMO discussion is hot/cold/recurring depending on who's in the news. The discussion is valid, but that's not my point, here.

    I was thinking of these statements:

    "To make matters worse, the new National Defense Authorization Act, signed into law in December 2011, now effectively codifies such indefinite military detention without charge or trial."

    "I remind all branches of the US Government of their obligation under (new) international human rights law to ensure that individuals deprived of their liberty can have the lawfulness of their detention reviewed before a court".

    "I urge the US Congress to take steps to enable the US Administration to close the Guantanamo Bay detention centre – as it stated it wished to do – in compliance with the Government’s obligations under (new) international human rights law".

    What are President Obama and Hillary Clinton doing here? Is it common for the UN to speak to Congress instead of POTUS? Has Obama asked the UN to criticize Congress publicly? Or, does this administration no longer garner any international respect? Did this new codification come about at the request or with the support of our own people because they can't take care of business at home?
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    Re: UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay deeply disturbed by US failure.

    It's the UN, who gives a **** what they think?
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    Re: UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay deeply disturbed by US failure.

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenvilleGrows View Post
    Here's the UN Press Release. Does anyone else see several layers of problems here?

    Obviously, GITMO discussion is hot/cold/recurring depending on who's in the news. The discussion is valid, but that's not my point, here.

    I was thinking of these statements:

    "To make matters worse, the new National Defense Authorization Act, signed into law in December 2011, now effectively codifies such indefinite military detention without charge or trial."

    "I remind all branches of the US Government of their obligation under (new) international human rights law to ensure that individuals deprived of their liberty can have the lawfulness of their detention reviewed before a court".

    "I urge the US Congress to take steps to enable the US Administration to close the Guantanamo Bay detention centre – as it stated it wished to do – in compliance with the Government’s obligations under (new) international human rights law".

    What are President Obama and Hillary Clinton doing here? Is it common for the UN to speak to Congress instead of POTUS? Has Obama asked the UN to criticize Congress publicly? Or, does this administration no longer garner any international respect? Did this new codification come about at the request or with the support of our own people because they can't take care of business at home?
    Dictum that comes down from a body so steeped in anti Semitic thought, anti America thought, and holds as its members some of the worst human rights violators historically, in indeed today has a chairman slot occupied by the representative from Uruguay, is of laughable stature to me. The UN should get the hell out of NYC, and off our land.

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    Re: UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay deeply disturbed by US failure.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Dictum that comes down from a body so steeped in anti Semitic thought, anti America thought, and holds as its members some of the worst human rights violators historically, in indeed today has a chairman slot occupied by the representative from Uruguay, is of laughable stature to me. The UN should get the hell out of NYC, and off our land.

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    Lol anti-semitism card.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay deeply disturbed by US failure.

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Dictum that comes down from a body so steeped in anti Semitic thought, anti America thought, and holds as its members some of the worst human rights violators historically, in indeed today has a chairman slot occupied by the representative from Uruguay, is of laughable stature to me. The UN should get the hell out of NYC, and off our land.

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    Anti-Semitic? It's a legal issue not a ethnic one.
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    Re: UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay deeply disturbed by US failure.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It's the UN, who gives a **** what they think?
    I give a **** what they think. In this case they are right. Don't make the incorrect assumption that all the inmates in GITMO are terrorists. Check and see how they got to GITMO, you might be stunned.

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    Re: UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay deeply disturbed by US failure.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It's the UN, who gives a **** what they think?
    I agree. But, do you think it means anything as far as loss of respect or as to potentially using the international body for national politics?
    The US is an odd ship. The captain yells out when he sees obtacles , but 535 individual propellers do the steering.

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    Re: UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay deeply disturbed by US failure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Anti-Semitic? It's a legal issue not a ethnic one.

    Our law is the Constitution of the United States. We do not bow to any international overlord.

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    Re: UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay deeply disturbed by US failure.

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I give a **** what they think. In this case they are right. Don't make the incorrect assumption that all the inmates in GITMO are terrorists. Check and see how they got to GITMO, you might be stunned.
    Uh huh. Sure thing Fagan. How about you be honest with your lean, before asking us to believe fairy tails about Gitmo?
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    Re: UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay deeply disturbed by US failure.

    Quote Originally Posted by GreenvilleGrows View Post
    I agree. But, do you think it means anything as far as loss of respect or as to potentially using the international body for national politics?
    The UN is a very bad organization, full of elitist that believe they know better then the rest of Humanity what's good for it. Burn the building to the ground...
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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