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    Re: Oakland police arresting about 100 protesters

    Quote Originally Posted by FinnMacCool View Post
    I don't disagree with the fact that some of the protesters were being violent. However, the incident I'm reffering to took place later that evening.

    I'm not trying to argue that the protesters were justified in behaving the way they did, but I think the idea of defending a police department that has regularily sought to crush these protesters with extreme prejudice, and which has a history of assassinations and police brutality, is absurd.
    Shouldnt you use your own rational with the Oakland police department? You say that not all of the Anarchists were violent. Yet you are assuming that all of the cops are violent?

    Plus since it is known that OPD has had rulings against the department it is obvious why these Anarchists are pushing the limits of the law specifically in Oakland. Occupy Oakland is purposely trying to provoke the OPD knowing that OPD has been required by courts to perform in a given way. So any police abuse that these Anarchists get was by their own choosing. They obviously want to be attacked as an strategy, to appear justified in their propaganda campaign. They are seeking photo ops not justice.

    Both you and Khayembii Communique are using the OPD as an straw man argument. It is obvious that to protect the Anarchist's you assert that anyone against the Oakland Occupiers are assigned as siding with the OPD. I am against Anarchy in general and will fight against the anarchists that try to manipulate any police department for political gain. There is no integrity in what the Oakland occupiers are doing. They have made it clear that they hate America and want to take over our country. What they call democracy is actually a dictatorship of the majority.

    The occupy movement is a direct attack on the core of America. These Anarchist's that are using liberals and Socialists will stop at nothing to get their way. Remember this conversation in a year or two when they have escalated their violent revolution to a point where it will be undeniably corrupt. If one digs deep into the occupy movement one can obviously notice that non-violence is only a first stage. Occupiers accept that violence has its place, but they admit that they do not have the numbers yet for violence to be successful.

    Everything that the occupy movement does is designed to gain numbers. The going strategy is to appear non-violent to gain legitimacy. The other part of the strategy is to appear leaderless to make it impossible to cut off the head. Next they need to look like they are fighting a oppressive regime. There is no plan to succeed with any of the protests. All over the occupy movement it is know that what they are doing is just lying the ground work for future efforts. At a future date these photos will be used to manipulate young people into believing that America is a hidden dictatorship. There is no plan to create a political party out of the Occupy movement. The occupy movement instead asserts that American government is too corrupted to save. They intend on replacing our government with theirs.

    BTW how many dead protesters are there nation wide?

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    Re: Oakland police arresting about 100 protesters

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Nah, I like the Tea Partiers, obviously. I don't like Occupy. So, I would like to hit them, really hard, repeatedly.
    Now there is a surprise! LOL!
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    Re: Oakland police arresting about 100 protesters

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post

    Everything that the occupy movement does is designed to gain numbers. The going strategy is to appear non-violent to gain legitimacy. The other part of the strategy is to appear leaderless to make it impossible to cut off the head. Next they need to look like they are fighting a oppressive regime. There is no plan to succeed with any of the protests. All over the occupy movement it is know that what they are doing is just lying the ground work for future efforts. At a future date these photos will be used to manipulate young people into believing that America is a hidden dictatorship. There is no plan to create a political party out of the Occupy movement. The occupy movement instead asserts that American government is too corrupted to save. They intend on replacing our government with theirs.
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    Re: Oakland police arresting about 100 protesters

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Its a tough call then huh? Claim to hate corporate/banker/broker influence...vote for the politicians that actively lobby for and receive the bulk of those donations. What to do...what to do...
    Ban corporate donations? Reduce corporate donations to a $500,000 max.

    We arent talking about people FORCING their cash into those politicians pockets...we are talking about politicians that schedule fundraisers to RAISE that cash. Now...why would they have this symbiotic relationship?
    Yes, I understand but our political establishment is comfortably in bed with corporations regardless of whether they're Paulestinian, Republican or Democrat.
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    Re: Oakland police arresting about 100 protesters

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll
    What they call democracy is actually a dictatorship of the majority.
    Oh my god not a dictatorship of the majority! Quick call the police to protect the dictatorship of the minority! This violence has got to stop!
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    Re: Oakland police arresting about 100 protesters

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Oh my god not a dictatorship of the majority! Quick call the police to protect the dictatorship of the minority! This violence has got to stop!
    Apparently the young man does not understand that majority rule and dictatorship are mutually exclusive.

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    Re: Oakland police arresting about 100 protesters

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    [IMG]http://computersafetytips.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/be-afraid-be-very-afraid
    Nope not afraid one bit. But thanx for the giant straw man pic it was cute.

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    Re: Oakland police arresting about 100 protesters

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Nope not afraid one bit. But thanx for the giant straw man pic it was cute.

    Well you sure sounded afraid.
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    Re: Oakland police arresting about 100 protesters

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Apparently the young man does not understand that majority rule and dictatorship are mutually exclusive.
    Majority rule directly dictates to the minority. Just because the majority of the people votes to kill the minority does not make the murders justified.

    But what possibly could go wrong with mob rule?

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    Re: Oakland police arresting about 100 protesters

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Well you sure sounded afraid.
    ANd you sound like an ass but what does that have to do with the topic?

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