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    Re: Ron Paul signed off on racist newsletters in the 1990s, associates say

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Define "extreme right wing".... Or as I suspect are you just calling all those that oppose your ideological beliefs, racist?

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    Re: Ron Paul signed off on racist newsletters in the 1990s, associates say

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    No, that is just a retarded right wing straw man.
    Retarded? Why do people let you get away with bald faced lies? Voter ID Laws? Nope, that would "hurt minorities". Affirmative Action, becausee blacks can't make it without help. Quota's in schools, cause blacks won't make it without. You might wish it weren't so, but reality says I'm right. You may not like the bluntness of it, but it's true.
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    Re: Ron Paul signed off on racist newsletters in the 1990s, associates say

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    [...] Besides, Paul probably didn't think of the papers as racist...
    From the OP's link:
    The articles included racial, anti-Semitic and anti-gay content. They claimed, for example, that the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. “seduced underage girls and boys’’; they ridiculed black activists by suggesting that New York be named “Zooville” or “Lazyopolis”; and they said the 1992 Los Angeles riots ended “when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks.’’

    I just love it when someone doesn't do the easy homework

    The moral of this story has nothing to do with Paul's knowledge of what was in the reports, but that he intentionally published something that he probably didn't believe in order to make money off of people who did believe it.

    Let me restate that: People will tell you what you want to hear if they think they can make money (or other type of personal gain) from you.

    I therefore advise everyone to think for themselves.

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    Re: Ron Paul signed off on racist newsletters in the 1990s, associates say

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Retarded? Why do people let you get away with bald faced lies? Voter ID Laws? Nope, that would "hurt minorities". Affirmative Action, becausee blacks can't make it without help. Quota's in schools, cause blacks won't make it without. You might wish it weren't so, but reality says I'm right. You may not like the bluntness of it, but it's true.
    So you do not know the difference between help and hurt?

    Affirmative action is an attempt to make right previous wrongs. It does not say that blacks could not make it without help.

    Quotas is school do not mean that blacks could not make it without quotas.

    This might be difficult for you to understand, but liberals know full well minorities can and will make it without help. Voter ID laws are being opposed because they would hurt minorities by a far larger portion than whites. Affirmative action and quotas are an attempt to ensure equal access because we know that not every one has equal opportunity from society. Noe of it is saying that minorities cannot make it on their own. That is just your straw man since you cannot actually argue against what liberals actually believe. When you have to go out there and "interpret" what others beleive so you can actually handle arguing against it, the problem is with you.
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    Re: Ron Paul signed off on racist newsletters in the 1990s, associates say

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Retarded? Why do people let you get away with bald faced lies?
    First you'll have to establish it's a lie. We won't hold our breaths.

    Voter ID Laws? Nope, that would "hurt minorities".
    Actually the argument is that they disenfranchise those who aren't readily able to get IDs like the elderly. Minorities are just more severely affected by them. However Voter ID has absolutely nothing to do with success.

    Affirmative Action, becausee blacks can't make it without help.
    Affirmative Action has nothing to do with blacks. It actually is a policy making it so an employer can't discriminate on the basis of race, gender, sexual orientation etc.

    Quota's in schools, cause blacks won't make it without.
    Can you show us a school that has a federally/state mandated quota? How about this - show us a single school that has a numeral quota or otherwise? I dare you to try and find one. Just one?

    You might wish it weren't so, but reality says I'm right. You may not like the bluntness of it, but it's true.
    Please get your facts straight. Why is it that the far right always seems to have a problem with "the blacks". You never complain about women who benefit from "AA" policies or the thousands of Chinese who benefit from the supposed "AA" quotas. It's always black people. There seems to be a pattern. It's not as if poor white kids in trailer parks don't benefit from AA too. College campuses across the US are flourishing with the children of white people who couldn't afford to go to college. So why is it only blacks you seem to have a problem with?
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    Re: Ron Paul signed off on racist newsletters in the 1990s, associates say

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Ron Paul has denied any involvement in the racist newsletters he has been accused of being part of, but....



    It hurts me to have to say the following: I have been an ardent supporter of Ron Paul for many years, even voting for him whenever I got a chance. Now I have to take a hard look at what I have been doing, use a little reason, and change my own course. Since Ron Paul did sign off on those racist articles, he knew what was in them, and that is not acceptable. Had Ron Paul just come out and said that he was involved, and apologize, it wouldn't be so bad. After all, George Wallace turned into a very decent human being before he died, renouncing racism. But Ron Paul had to continue to say he knew nothing about the newsletters. He lied to me.

    If it is just one associate of Dr. Paul saying this, it wouldn't be hard to rationalize "sour grapes" here. But 3 associates? This tells me all I need to know. It is with a heavy heart, and with great disappointment, that I hereby renounce my support of Ron Paul. I know that I am about to be flamed hard and insulted for doing this, but since I am doing the right thing here, I have no problem with it. Since I supported Dr. Paul for all these years, this is something that I need to say.

    Article is here.
    Do you seriously believe that Ron Paul is racist?
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    Re: Ron Paul signed off on racist newsletters in the 1990s, associates say

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Do you seriously believe that Ron Paul is racist?
    As Jim Steinmen wrote and Meat Loaf sang........ "ain't no doubt about it".
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    Re: Ron Paul signed off on racist newsletters in the 1990s, associates say

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    As Jim Steinmen wrote and Meat Loaf sang........ "ain't no doubt about it".
    I disagree. He's surrounded by a few racists but I don't think he is one himself. I doubt he thought that a little newsletter nobody read in 1992 would come back to haunt him. If he had had campaign handlers back then who scrutinize pretty much every article a person has written, even they would have a hard time catching this one as "racist". What I'm opposed to is the nonsense that Ron Paul was just a little angel who didn't know anything about this. The guy seems to be an ideological micromanager who makes sure he remains consistent. No way he didn't read a letter going out with his name at the top even if he thought it wasn't racist.
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    Re: Ron Paul signed off on racist newsletters in the 1990s, associates say

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Actually, I think the fact the offensive content is only within a specific five-year period, when he was least involved with the newsletter, and only includes these scraps buried in the middle of the newsletter is a positive. One should hardly expect pure perfection of anyone at any time, let alone all the time.
    With all due respect, I think the amount of rationalization you have done in this thread is simply amazing. Almost impressive, actually.

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    Re: Ron Paul signed off on racist newsletters in the 1990s, associates say

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I disagree. He's surrounded by a few racists but I don't think he is one himself. I doubt he thought that a little newsletter nobody read in 1992 would come back to haunt him. If he had had campaign handlers back then who scrutinize pretty much every article a person has written, even they would have a hard time catching this one as "racist". What I'm opposed to is the nonsense that Ron Paul was just a little angel who didn't know anything about this. The guy seems to be an ideological micromanager who makes sure he remains consistent. No way he didn't read a letter going out with his name at the top even if he thought it wasn't racist.
    One does not surround themselves with racists by accident after they have clearly shown their cards and beliefs.
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