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    Re: NAVY SEALS night-time raid

    Quote Originally Posted by Paratrooper View Post
    I think they are doing a good job and should continue. I do wonder though why the SEALs seem to be in the news so much lately, they aren't our only special operations group.
    The Seals, especially Team Six, are the public face of the USA Special Ops.

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    Re: NAVY SEALS night-time raid

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Once she decided to leave the United States she would no longer have been my daughter, so it wouldn't have made any difference to me.
    Your "family values" are fundamentally diseased and I would be ashamed to be associated with them. She left the country with noble intentions and did not in any fashion betray or compromise her family in doing so; if you would disown your own daughter for this, then the dishonor of doing so would be entirely on your part. Family comes before nation and it comes before politics... Always.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Sixty posts on this thread and 26 of them are either from or about Tigger and his skewed view of the world. What about the Navy Seals??
    What about them? They did a good thing here. Probably get medals for it. But if they were the kind of people that needed the praise of anonymous strangers or the promise of medals to do the kinds of things they do, they wouldn't be SEALS in the first place. Everyone knows who and what the SEALS are and how deserving of praise they are.

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    so you too, would deny your own daughter? i'm quite surprised james.
    I'm actually divided on the issue of whether or not we should use our military for this. Our willingness to make such sacrifices to rescue hostages tells our enemies that taking hostages is an effective tactic to use against us. At least surgical raids are a better alternative than paying ransoms, like some European countries have been known to do.

    I'm capable of making the cold calculation to say that the government should not do something that is good for my family but wrong for the nation-- but I would not be capable of turning a blind eye to the fate of my own child in that situation. If my government will not assist me in this matter, then the responsibility would fall upon me.

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    Re: NAVY SEALS night-time raid

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    I do not have any children, nor do I ever have the intention of having any children.
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    Re: NAVY SEALS night-time raid

    Since this thread is several pages long, I'm sure it has been completely derailed by now. However, I encourage everyone to read the entire article linked in the OP. What these SEALs accomplished, and how they accomplished it, is utterly mind-boggling. These men must have nerves of hardened titanium to have pulled off such a dangerous and courageous rescue under seemingly impossible conditions.

    True heroes, one and all. I am in awe.

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    Re: NAVY SEALS night-time raid

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Since this thread is several pages long, I'm sure it has been completely derailed by now. However, I encourage everyone to read the entire article linked in the OP. What these SEALs accomplished, and how they accomplished it, is utterly mind-boggling. These men must have nerves of hardened titanium to have pulled off such a dangerous and courageous rescue under seemingly impossible conditions.

    True heroes, one and all. I am in awe.
    I'll second that.
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    Re: NAVY SEALS night-time raid

    Originally Posted by Tigger
    Once she decided to leave the United States she would no longer have been my daughter, so it wouldn't have made any difference to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Your "family values" are fundamentally diseased and I would be ashamed to be associated with them. She left the country with noble intentions and did not in any fashion betray or compromise her family in doing so; if you would disown your own daughter for this, then the dishonor of doing so would be entirely on your part. Family comes before nation and it comes before politics... Always.
    Always, no question. Why would Tigger feel this way?

    Originally Posted by Tigger
    I do not have any children, nor do I ever have the intention of having any children.
    Oh, that's why.

    If Tigger ever changes his mind about having children, I hope for their sake he changes his views on family loyalty as well.
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    Re: NAVY SEALS night-time raid

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Always, no question. Why would Tigger feel this way?
    I don't know. Many "family values" conservatives also claim that they would disown their unwed daughter if she became pregnant; I find the idea of abandoning my children when they need me most to be so morally repugnant that it makes me physically ill. "Family values" indeed.

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    Yeah these guys are true Americans and know how to get things done.
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    Re: NAVY SEALS night-time raid

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    so you too, would deny your own daughter? i'm quite surprised james.
    I would be sad regardless of which loved one decided to leave the safety of the US and go to a country that is hostile to Americans.But still we shouldn't be risking the lives of our troops to rescue idiot civilians who decide to go to countries hostile to Americans.
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    Re: NAVY SEALS night-time raid

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    Gee and here I thought that pro-life meant all life and that people who sacrifice so others can have a better life are noble. As it turns out you too are part of that hypocrisy tiger is. Only fetal life matters since that requires nothing from you to sacrifice..
    If you know how to look up words in a dictionary you would know that pro-life doesn't mean all life.

    Hence your hypocrisy.
    Opposing legalized abortion does not make me a hypocrite it makes me pro-life.

    Please spare me your inane diversion and for the record I am a gun owner and defender of the second
    If you are going to make up idiotic claims as to what pro-life means then I shall do the same with pro-choice.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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