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State of the Union Address

Another dishonest post from TD. I have said that I'm willing to have my tax rates increased

The only consistency is TD's position is that he doesn't want HIS taxes raised.

He's willing to have taxes increased on people who make less them him. He's willing to have taxes increased on people who make more than him.

the main solution is to get rid of all the idiotic excessive government spending and that would mean no one paying more tax

the worst solution-the one you and other lefties want is to jack up taxes on the rich. that will only increase the deficit because the rest of the public will assume that they don't have to pay anything more and they will demand more spending

THE ONLY WAY the tax system can reduce the deficit is to make government spending PAINFUL to a majority of the voters and that is not achieved by only taxing those who already pay far too much

and yes, if someone is paying hundreds of thousands in taxes they are paying far more than they use and if someone is pay ZERO income taxes they are paying less than they should
 
The money didn't move. It didn't perform a job, it was just redistributed. If two people are standing on the corner and one hands the other 20,000 dollars, we are ok with taxing that? I know we do tax that, but the money hasn't done anything but move between names. It didn't buy anything or generate anything. It was just moved.

excellent point-I noted that there is no transfer for value

sangha either thinks the government deserves 60% of the profit or more or just wants to annoy those with investment income

there is not a sound or fair argument why the government should take 35% and then 35%-45% from the same pile of money
 
The money didn't move. It didn't perform a job, it was just redistributed. If two people are standing on the corner and one hands the other 20,000 dollars, we are ok with taxing that? I know we do tax that, but the money hasn't done anything but move between names. It didn't buy anything or generate anything. It was just moved.

What if it was 20 dollars?

Yes, the money did move. It moved from the possession of Mikes' Lemonade Stand into the pockets of Mike.
 
Why am I not surprised you'd be insulting?

Double taxation does not exist in America. Sorry, it doesn't. The concept is based on a foolish idea that a corporation and it's owners are one. They are not. The other foolish belief is money somehow has a memory. It doesn't. All bets are off when it changes hands. If someone gives you a million dollars, a mill they paid taxes on, the money isn't doubled taxed and neither are you. That entire frame of thinking is ridiculous. Money isn't an entity with rights and legal status beyond the entities controlling it. Money isn't taxed outside of the entity.

I see how Conservative fall into the worship of money...

and you seem to have a driving desire to have the government confiscate as much wealth as possible

no one can justify the government diminishing say a million dollars by 610,000 dollars before that money gets to the owners
 
the main solution is to get rid of all the idiotic excessive government spending and that would mean no one paying more tax

the worst solution-the one you and other lefties want is to jack up taxes on the rich. that will only increase the deficit because the rest of the public will assume that they don't have to pay anything more and they will demand more spending

THE ONLY WAY the tax system can reduce the deficit is to make government spending PAINFUL to a majority of the voters and that is not achieved by only taxing those who already pay far too much

and yes, if someone is paying hundreds of thousands in taxes they are paying far more than they use and if someone is pay ZERO income taxes they are paying less than they should

Notice how TD won't deny how selfish his position is. All he cares about is his own taxes.

The talk about how it's wrong to raise taxes is just a rationalization for the selfishness of his position
 
excellent point-I noted that there is no transfer for value

sangha either thinks the government deserves 60% of the profit or more or just wants to annoy those with investment income

there is not a sound or fair argument why the government should take 35% and then 35%-45% from the same pile of money

Your posts haven't been honest about your own motivations so I'm not surprised that your post is dishonest about mine
 
Notice how TD won't deny how selfish his position is. All he cares about is his own taxes.

The talk about how it's wrong to raise taxes is just a rationalization for the selfishness of his position

Individual greed is the reason things get cheaper and/or last longer.

Pretty much everyone has this quality, yet your ideology demonizes something so commonplace.
 
Notice how TD won't deny how selfish his position is. All he cares about is his own taxes.

The talk about how it's wrong to raise taxes is just a rationalization for the selfishness of his position

NOtice how selfish sangha is-he thinks the government deserves 60% of money earned by a corporation before the owners of the corporation get it.

tell me Sangha, how much is too much

and selfish is demanding those who pay too much pay even more

and I don't believe for a second you are in the top one percent. and I don't believe for a second those who are in that group that say they aren't taxed enough really believe that. They spew that crap because they benefit when dems are in power and that is their goal.
 
Individual greed is the reason things get cheaper and/or last longer.

Pretty much everyone has this quality, yet your ideology demonizes something so commonplace.

At least you agree that TD's position is selfish and has nothing to do with right or wrong
 
Individual greed is the reason things get cheaper and/or last longer.

Pretty much everyone has this quality, yet your ideology demonizes something so commonplace.

its a parasitic mindset that claims its greed to not want to be taxed far more than one's fair share but its "egalitarian and fair" to clamor for the wealth of others.
 
its a parasitic mindset that claims its greed to not want to be taxed far more than one's fair share but its "egalitarian and fair" to clamor for the wealth of others.

TD thinks it's parasitic for me to want the govt to tax me more :roll:
 
At least you agree that TD's position is selfish and has nothing to do with right or wrong

I agree your position is designed to annoy people and is based on a desire to have the government take from others to alleviate your envy
 
TD thinks it's parasitic for me to want the govt to tax me more :roll:

actually he thinks you are full of ****, and doesn't have a monopoly on such a concept
 
The money didn't move. It didn't perform a job, it was just redistributed. If two people are standing on the corner and one hands the other 20,000 dollars, we are ok with taxing that? I know we do tax that, but the money hasn't done anything but move between names. It didn't buy anything or generate anything. It was just moved.

What if it was 20 dollars?
Money doesn't need to perform a function for it to be taxed. BTW, money can't perform anything. It's not alive.

In that exchange, I believe gifts are taxed when they exceed a certain amount. It's his income, so it should be taxed. By the above example if you have a job, you shouldn't be taxed at all. Your employer was taxed already.
 
TD thinks it's parasitic for me to want the govt to tax me more :roll:

1) I don't believe your claims

2) and if you are so dim as to believe that the government needs your money more than you do you ought to be writing them checks for any money above and beyond what you need to live on
 
Money doesn't need to perform a function for it to be taxed. BTW, money can't perform anything. It's not alive.

In that exchange, I believe gifts are taxed when they exceed a certain amount. It's his income, so it should be taxed. By the above example if you have a job, you shouldn't be taxed at all. Your employer was taxed already.

corporations really don't live either. what they own is really owned by the shareholders. taxing a corporation taxes the owners. the more you take from the corporation, the more you take from the owners

but you knew that

tell me why the govenment NEEDS more money
 
actually he thinks you are full of ****, and doesn't have a monopoly on such a concept


I usually reject other people posting what I think but in this case, you have hit the nail straight on the head

brilliant analysis
 
1) I don't believe your claims

2) and if you are so dim as to believe that the government needs your money more than you do you ought to be writing them checks for any money above and beyond what you need to live on

I don't believe your claims. It sounds like someone is envious of my wealth,
 
corporations really don't live either. what they own is really owned by the shareholders. taxing a corporation taxes the owners. the more you take from the corporation, the more you take from the owners

but you knew that

tell me why the govenment NEEDS more money

Right. Money doesn't live, and neither do corps.

Thanks for proving that it's not life or money that is taxed; it's financial transactions :lol:
 
I don't believe your claims. It sounds like someone is envious of my wealth,

who on this board knows you and is willing to support your claims. I doubt anyone believes you.
 
Right. Money doesn't live, and neither do corps.

Thanks for proving that it's not life or money that is taxed; it's financial transactions :lol:

another dishonest misrepresentation
 
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